we’re talking about a group of dudes in my opinion the guys before us that did stuff that was more important if not as important and more just amazing than people are doing now because it’s never been done and no one responding to it nothing there’s nothing about it there’s no money in it there’s and you know deep deep inside what you’re doing is hugely important and so you the only war you can have is with amongst yourself because no one else is paying attention welcome back to the letters I’m Jeff Grasso this is Lance mountain if we’re here with Jason Jesse we’re here with Sam hits this is truck wars and that’s Olson we’re here once again with a friend of the letters mr. Tony Hawk hi Pete hey Jeff this is Steve Caballero we’re here with Rick Blackheart hall and Oates what’s your opinion on the on the chilling man hey hey okay truck Wars truck horse drop horse we’re calling it truck wars because of I don’t know why because it rolls off the tongue so we talked to Lance about the truck Ward he’s like there was no truck war well are we talking about how tracker and Andy Indian tracker yeah it wasn’t even a war workout in with Indian tracker that dude out it was a very complicated web but but at the base of it was indeed tracker you are deep in the indie thing then cuz you so obviously there was a war but I had no clue tracker versus Indy Hawk versus a SOI transworld versus Thrasher what do you know go going versus Indy I think before even the truck Wars I meant there was always at North versus South deal cuz we’re from North Cal you wrote he wrote independence he was from Southern Cal you tracker for me at the time it was all about NorCal vs. SoCal and everything that came with that was was trucks they had a much dirtier image the Indy crew the Northern California crew as opposed to the squeaky clean kind of Southern California dolphin shorts and Sun and fun of tracker trucks right like and it was on off to the races from there right baseplate kingpin axel axel nuts hanger washers bushings that’s pivotal tracker made a truck and that was the if you skateboarded you rode trackers no one wrote anything else galling was there throw pool show go then Bennett’s came along and Bennett’s turned so much better and everyone wrote Bennett’s but they had plastic base plates and they broke Indy knocked off n its geometry try to make the stability of a tractor with the turning radius of a Bennett that’s it simple done well if you’re talking about the 70s like whatever you’re talking about that 70s boom and you have everybody and their mother come filtering in trying to make money off of skateboarding so you have tons of product floods the marketplace all kinds of zany ideas you know there’s those trucks with the one wheel that go across hey here’s a way to make a quick buck boulder boards out of Colorado made some of the best skateboards in the history of skateboarding pioneered all kinds of they were a furniture manufacturer to start out with and they got into it based upon like hey here’s a way to supplement our furniture making business if you’ll go air beamed the triplane the K beam for crypt onyx root for Salva and Malba Energy’s moto builds bennett’s Megatron ACS trucks was American cycle systems they made bike parts the best truck company of all time laser trucks have you ever smoked weed through a truck yeah the laser eight-inch cut it out and try it on it was like the full-size picture had like little dots around it you can like it out and put it on your board the Eclipse thing give or see that what’s Eclipse Eclipse were actually like these clips you would on go on the end of the axle so you don’t bolts it was some speed for convenience yeah the fury team was rune me Bob Burnquist rally right I think muss goes there to are no flip influenced our dough yep who else I did all I know that all I know is that Lance was a TM and Lance was a team manager yeah tough smooth the Makaha truck where the holes are you can slide them to make your wheelbase smaller or bigger stage 3 otherwise known now is an ace truck rad pads the skateboard you know riser pad system needs to make angled pads so make the trucks turn differently so they have a diagram on it and then I’m diagram you actually have all the trucks backwards in the going track ACS stroker the Orion Titan web mission Turner Bear flex venture hunger mobility back standard tensors crooks yeah royal Bennett yeah grinding teensie rollers the more friction the faster you go the better the sound stand on something and take it to the next level smash out of the shallow end that’ll just give you enough g-forces to take you over to light death you want to take it to the next level maybe just see where it goes it’s just the evolution that can get Savage we’re just making this stuff up you start skateboarding and you ride that there’s one truck basically nose tracker everybody Road tracker tracker was a truck it was a good truck sturdy stable everybody wrote trackers you know pretty much that was like ripping tracker had the entire system they had to half track the mid track the X track and then look and then a few seconds later the six track hit the scene trackers on the first truck companies that actually was tailored more for I think modern skateboarding you know it was made for what skateboarding was about to become by myself at Stacy’s house and Alan golfing is there Mike McGill is there and Mike he’s like one right for tracker they want you on the team I’m like Derrick’s were you writing I was writing Indies yeah I was that one receipt a contest and dave domine was there and I couldn’t get a set of new Indies like I was still riding Mike Smith’s old setup literally I was sponsored but riding his hand-me-down then I asked Dave domine if he had any extra trucks yeah I just needed new trucks and like he was in my line of sight that was pretty much how I got spun to my tracker like tracker team managers right there when I asked him for trucks he went to his car got me a set of trucks and I once my tracker I moved to Delmar that’s right so that’s how you got hooked up with the tracker thing yeah they were all there every day and it was cool it was a cool crew people there I hung out with Lester Lester was a tracker guy at that time so I was hanging out with Kasai traveling with Kasai that was kind of my tracker bond in that doorway dan Wilkes loved trackers he’s a big proponent of the tracker truck system and he rode the free road tracker boards and he got a model on tracker skateboards and I’m honest for a skateboard graphic as a dinosaur the fun in fact I wrote trackers did alvaro trackers whatever that’s how that’s how we do it here we just emulate and mimic people I wrote trackers cuz Nash wrote Indies I wanted to be different see this is where the war starts we’re in this thing we’re so different than the world but then we get in that we don’t want to be the same as everyone else so it’s my war it’s black flag then Friedman was over taking photos of Black Flag one day and I said man I got a shot and in that this is what he does I mean he can and so he said let’s do it and I guess Thrasher or into Indy truck sawed and the ad there it is did you actually write that well they they said can you talk about the trucks like these yeah I don’t know yeah I ride them I didn’t know what to say they’re fantastic they let me turn left to right I didn’t know what to do I want I ride him independent from day one was always way more of an attitude than it ever was a brand or a team or anything else it’s like this is who you are so when FASTA walked up to the first time fully long hair greasy dude and theater and mustache and Eric’s the same way and he looked like my motorcycle grease monkey guys you know I mean there’s a green solar the hands and it’s kind of dirty with no it easily because at that point on everything we’re getting this for like these surf guys you don’t mean but I’m not asserted I don’t live on the beach those guys didn’t skate so how are they gonna know what to build here’s the stroker okay not working here’s the rebound keep the company going okay that’s two Purdue and then we’ll let’s get a couple our dudes that ride boards it actually skateboard and see what they think I go independent but the whole story is faster came down and he had a set of Indies with hundred dollar bill wedged in the thing and handed him to Bobby Valdez and Geralyn and everybody was writing Indies Indy showed up ready to roll man and they had no qualms to walk up to Salva and Olson and Dwayne and ta and whoever the was on the scene and go want to try ours how did foul still know about skaters and I think he ran I’m not really sure the history you got to talk to those guys and I remember foul so he’s like dude who else should I give these to you know who should I give these to him all dude give them to that guy given to that guy black hearts on and Bobby just invents the invert and he wins the contest on them and Bowman’s all of a sudden on them and Salvas on him and he win contests and Saladino howie hood these are the first guys Jay Smith all these guys just started they kind of steamrolled one of those things first hit it was like they just went across the industry it was like do it if you’re good you better have Indies or else you’re not good he started picking the dudes that mattered and easily taking him because the trucks at that point he turned a lot better than what was out there they grabbed dudes they put him on the team I mean who wouldn’t write a truck that actually turned compared to a truck that didn’t turn it wasn’t like whoa those dudes are genius they’re like grab it’s like okay these dudes are smart now they can actually turn on their skateboard Indy had every good guy there was man if I’m Dom me if I’m tracker Larry I’m sitting there and I’m going hey you’re gonna go cherry-pick our best riders you just got here oh and you know like these are my guys what do you do what he basically Fausto and Eric came in like pulled his coup d’etat and stole more or less like ten riders right there well so those guys were gear heads man they like things that went fast they like to race so their mentality was win or lose so they were fierce about it and they ma they clung to this punk ethos they liked to party at other stores you know how about Novak Sherman Fausto Swenson and you’re a kid I want a party like I get that you know like yeah I want to be with these guys I got iron crosses and they’re punk and they rage and they get me right like I want to be with them we need to know about going well I don’t even know what you’re talking about I’ve never hey all I know is this hey burrows um okay I want to be honestly I’m pretty nervous because I know the people you’ve been with and so I don’t want to take a drag off that anymore so we’re gonna do this every time no more hotbox cuz I dropped that up okay where are we with what happened who happened we need to know about going you’re going to be our going representative going just sat on the periphery and slowly built the going army and there was some ballers I was fine Schroder you like a gator and Miller and and it was just bitching and it was like its own little world that didn’t care really about what you’re talking about old lady’s head lady’s pets all over her neighborhood millions of cats cats dogs rabbit mr. Koz chickens chickens alligators and and we’ve been skating and how’d you get into it it’s getting 14 years and I got sick of rollerskating cut the bottom like a dog you the only reason I put those things on my board was because Jeff Phillips Chris Miller and Gator you consider Phillips a going Rider before a tracker Rider no matter what and he was the best skateboarder Vancouver Vancouver one he rendered any drops in and Don Hoffman’s announcing and he goes shut the up dawn right in the middle of his life you know what though who’s your favorite going writer go can we not even talk about it’s retarded that’s the show though oh good show I’m super partial to Schroeder cuz yeah look how gives you not be the second the fuse got lit he blew up yeah yeah yeah and uh and it was such a beautiful explosion style we been Schroeder’s this week style King Ben’s a strong aggressive skater who drives his board in his body beyond the limits with his natural abilities and his all-out style Ben achieves instant recognition at any ramp um but Miller yet absolutely absolutely Miller just talking AB so spot lutely the bottom line is India is the bottom line always forever no matter what always Ivan war Indy shirts while I wrote for going so I mean bushings are like the key to trucks period that’s what makes trucks function are your bushings so if you get a truck brand new trucks and you’re not with your bushings then you really are with yourself your trucks for the sole of your skateboard like you know we had decks and wheels and everything that you know at our disposal that we just flip out but like our trucks were like super like if you lost your board you’re just bummed that you’re your trucks were gone you know because nowadays you can just put in a brand new set of bushings and your boards really going to pretty much work in turn like back then you get it like like it’s like an old like a baseball glove to get the bushings to turn yeah and look at trucks badass ride trucks made everything happen time without trucks how do you turn we all work for the van Doorn rubber company click here to see love letters to skateboarding

Truck Wars: Part 1 | Jeff Grosso’s Loveletters to Skateboarding | VANS

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  • August 18, 2016 at 12:49 am
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    z- rollers trucks.

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  • August 18, 2016 at 2:59 am
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    KRE-PER's were my shit! The Kreeper Show video was fuckin sick. Swanson and the Skate Junkeez for life. 666

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  • August 20, 2016 at 1:45 pm
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    Would be rad if we could get all these Love Letter's compiled on a DVD!

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  • August 26, 2016 at 3:56 pm
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    indys and vans fo life
    most responsive trucks and shoes

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  • August 27, 2016 at 5:52 pm
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    Where can I get Steve Caballero's t-shirt .. ? Love it !!

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  • August 28, 2016 at 8:05 am
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    jason jesse, what a man.

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  • August 29, 2016 at 3:47 pm
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    yellow hanger, black plastic base plate trackers with grindkings back in the day.

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  • September 3, 2016 at 3:38 pm
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    no love for phantom 2's? hahaha

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  • September 18, 2016 at 10:17 pm
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    how was wide was a gullwing back then?

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  • September 25, 2016 at 1:40 am
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    Indy's since 1987, and for life.

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  • October 13, 2016 at 2:50 am
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    Wow that bs smith by Dylan. Rip

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  • October 28, 2016 at 1:37 pm
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    indys are still da best

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  • November 5, 2016 at 4:21 am
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    i have always rode indys, I will never ride anything else. ever.

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  • November 29, 2016 at 1:44 am
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    siiiiic nose grind cody over the double doors at kowalski land…danger notice immediate….

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  • December 1, 2016 at 8:17 pm
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    720th like lol

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  • December 2, 2016 at 8:56 am
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    Damnnnnn so cool there is a Taiwanese house plate at the back next to lance 's head!? How did he get those?

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  • December 21, 2016 at 6:32 pm
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    wow… 6:18… dylan. rip in peace

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  • January 4, 2017 at 11:59 pm
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    dylan reider could fucking skate tranny hella good..

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  • January 9, 2017 at 10:50 am
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    Im afraid the Indy crew might beat me up, since my dad is long time Indy rider from 70's, 80's, 90's and now. I threw on a pair of Gullwing Pro 3's on my setup and I got a dirty look from my dad.

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  • January 25, 2017 at 1:06 am
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    B52 e clips with floating axle. Loudest fucking truck ever to rattle down the street in a tiny wheel era. clips came off all the time. you had to carry extras in your wallet, so you could put your wheel back on and keep skating.

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  • January 27, 2017 at 4:26 am
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    for me, I always loved INDY, THUNDER, & VENTURE. but for some ungodly reason, I always ended up with TRACKER. mind you, I NEVER bought a single set, but somehow I always ended up with a bunch of TRACKERS. I really appreciated the rubber base plates because I went through some base plates, but no one mentioned the 1 OBVIOUS problem with TRACKER…..the fvkkin' axles would slide inside of the hangars so 1 wheel would become super tight while the other 1 would become super loose & you'd ALWAYS  have to bang the axles back into position just to roll. I know i'm not the only 1 to ever have to deal with that.

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  • February 1, 2017 at 3:48 pm
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    I really want to skate one of those 80s boards to see what it feels like

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  • March 22, 2017 at 11:46 pm
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    came back for the truck noise montage 5:57

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  • April 26, 2017 at 6:08 pm
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    indy still king after all these years. 90 % of all trucks that came later is based on independent truck design and geometry.

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  • May 17, 2017 at 10:54 pm
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    rip Dylan Rieder

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  • May 22, 2017 at 3:43 am
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    you better shut up, don!

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  • May 25, 2017 at 4:31 am
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    Who's the one doing the grind in the azteca stadium ?

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  • May 26, 2017 at 7:37 am
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    9:14 I always rode and still ride INDY's…But I did buy Thunder few years ago for my popsicle deck..They are ok.
    *But non~Indy trucks I like are old school Tracker Ultra Lights..They were all black and just a good truck…
    **And we ALL loved the GrindKing upside down Kingpin……
    **worst trucks ever = G&S…Those small round ones from 1990…ugh!

    ps: WHy does The Chief have a HUUUUGE "Indy" tattoo and not ride for Indy???

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  • June 1, 2017 at 10:24 am
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    My first trucks were Trackers, back in the '87. Now I went and bought a new pair of trucks just yesterday and so be it, that they happen to be Indys. Nice coincidence in light of this episode. 🙂

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  • July 1, 2017 at 2:27 pm
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    Lucero is right Lazers were very good. They turned excellently and had the extra metal on top to grind off. Rode them for a short time period, cant remember when or why I got rid of em…ended up with some new gullwings in the 90's that were excellent, but for the most part it was indy's. riding indy's now…

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  • July 29, 2017 at 3:36 am
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    Brian Wainwright still rides Trackers

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  • August 25, 2017 at 3:49 am
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    All that grinding was music to my ears

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  • September 15, 2017 at 5:51 pm
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    Anyone remember Kipper trucks in the 90s?

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  • October 5, 2017 at 8:33 pm
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    If you were an east coast ni🅱️🅱️a you skated ventures

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  • October 13, 2017 at 1:33 pm
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    Venture,G&S, gullwing Trucks

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  • October 13, 2017 at 1:39 pm
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    Danny Way, didn't he ride Gullwings?

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  • October 13, 2017 at 1:42 pm
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    Bushings = your shocks!

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  • October 14, 2017 at 2:27 pm
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    who's art behind Jesse and Grosso?

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  • October 30, 2017 at 12:59 am
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    Anyone skated Kre-per trucks? Those fucking bat wings and the spiderweb hanger ugh. Awesome team, but gimmicky bad trucks.

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  • November 15, 2017 at 4:08 am
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    I remember back in the day Gullwing came out with super flyweights or something like that. it was a black plastic base to replace to make them lighter.

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  • November 18, 2017 at 2:22 pm
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    No mention of Thunder 🌩 or even Venture?!

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  • November 25, 2017 at 10:27 am
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    Beautiful show.

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  • December 28, 2017 at 6:59 am
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    Indy for life son.

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  • January 3, 2018 at 5:56 pm
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    Rollins looks like a legit senior citizen now.

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  • January 13, 2018 at 3:34 am
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    gullwings all day

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  • January 20, 2018 at 6:26 pm
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    RTBFTR

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  • January 25, 2018 at 11:22 pm
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    every love letters I've seen, it looks like everyone is high.

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  • January 31, 2018 at 1:44 am
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    I want what Tershay is smoking on 😉

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  • February 1, 2018 at 8:21 pm
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    Grosso rompin his dome on that buckshot vape or what

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  • February 3, 2018 at 5:40 am
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    Did henry rollins skate?

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  • February 12, 2018 at 2:55 pm
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    Salba…."im not a surf dude…i dont look like the beach." as hes wearing a loud Hawaiian shirt. haha.

    Indy turned. thats why I rode them. went from Bennett to Indy and never looked back. still ride em today. since stage 1

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  • February 19, 2018 at 2:45 am
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    You guys are so ****ING RAD ! Don't stop doing what you do

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  • February 23, 2018 at 9:54 pm
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    Blades Trucks. Nor Cal early 70's about a 140-something size. Ridden by Tim Marting inventor of the Rock n' Roll. Best turning trucks back then (early 70's) they were in production made in the Bay Area and sold quite a bit through the Alotaflex Skateboard Shop in Berkeley CA. It had a removeable 'grind' peice that could be replaced but most of us rode without it with an exposed axel and since the axel was much harder it was tough to grind through. When the 'wide' Blades were prototyped (about a 160-somthing size) they were the best truck around and alot of skaters were riding them (Pre Indy). There are maybe 3 wide sets in existance now. A few of the Alotaflex guys and Nor cal local Danny Dubert had a set. It could be folklore, but I beleive that a well known truck 'borrowed' some geometry from Blades.

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  • February 26, 2018 at 6:37 am
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    Song at 14:08 ?

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  • March 6, 2018 at 3:15 am
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    Gullwings were shit, compared to Indys or Tracker.

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  • March 7, 2018 at 12:23 pm
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    Krux

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  • March 15, 2018 at 9:01 pm
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    Grosso’s reaction to the E-Clips was priceless

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  • March 28, 2018 at 11:31 pm
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    Personally, trucks are the most vital part of the setup.

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  • April 8, 2018 at 8:51 pm
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    5:39 absolute music to my ears

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  • May 24, 2018 at 6:52 am
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    Jeff makes any day a good day in my book! glad to see him alive and healthy, pic show….love it!!

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  • May 24, 2018 at 4:07 pm
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    his tensor trucks still exist?

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  • May 31, 2018 at 4:33 pm
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    jason jesse is outta his mind ….he is funny as hell.

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  • June 7, 2018 at 3:31 am
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    What.., no San Diego Trucking Company?? Had a pair Lol

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  • June 12, 2018 at 5:12 pm
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    Shit…trucks made entirely of wheels?! How'd that even turn?

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  • July 1, 2018 at 2:54 am
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    GULLWING SKATE TRUCKS RULE PERIOD IT'S ALL I RIDE 😎

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  • July 1, 2018 at 3:01 am
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    GULLWING ARMY FOR LIFE 😎

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  • July 12, 2018 at 10:58 pm
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    Bless the editor of this video, the visual references please my feeble, millennial brain.

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  • July 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
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    Lance Mountain,skateboarder and damn fine human being.

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  • August 29, 2018 at 7:52 am
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    Went to the az liquor store one time in Victorville yo but a pbr and while skating the parking lot I lost my axle nut and fuxkin used the beet tab off the pbr as a clip thing like hawk was talking about to make it home. Worked great

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  • September 10, 2018 at 11:30 am
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    love grosso and loveletters !! 😀

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  • October 8, 2018 at 7:41 am
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    Dylan rode for thunder trucks

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  • October 27, 2018 at 9:20 pm
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    Grind King is my favorite.

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  • October 31, 2018 at 9:32 pm
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    No one talks about skating the way Grosso does, can't get enough of this stuff and i'm always on the search for more in depth
    skate history/lore/anything cool, kind of stuff

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  • November 3, 2018 at 4:20 pm
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    Fir me I was always Independent but then stuck with Thunder.

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  • November 7, 2018 at 2:22 am
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    My first pair were Gullwing. But I'm an Indy guy till death.
    When I was a kid, we all thought Trackers were hollow… or soft!

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  • November 20, 2018 at 2:13 am
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    We need more white supremacists like jason jesse in skateboarding.

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  • December 22, 2018 at 7:03 pm
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    This show rules.

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  • January 4, 2019 at 3:28 pm
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    The "Reenactment" part lool

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  • January 4, 2019 at 3:38 pm
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    Yo that backtail Ben Schroeder did was like from the future. Looks like it was filmed yesterday with a hi 8 cam.

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  • January 27, 2019 at 2:07 am
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    Indy was always sick. Tracker was for pretty boys

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  • March 17, 2019 at 6:05 pm
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    Venture, always.

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  • March 30, 2019 at 4:01 pm
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    Dude Kryptonics is Walmart shit dude. I bought two boards two pairs of trucks 8 Wheels 16 bearings and a skate tool on discount for 15.99 at Kmart

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  • April 14, 2019 at 10:18 pm
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    6:20 dylan has so much style!

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  • April 19, 2019 at 9:06 am
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    Lol at Matthew Lillard narrating the “Style King” segment 😂

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  • April 21, 2019 at 12:05 am
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    you know I gotta say some of the best fucking bushings I ever rode are those new light blue ones that come stock with the tracker 120something and the stock orange indy bushing.

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  • May 2, 2019 at 11:45 pm
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    VENTURE crushes them all, best trucks ever. LIVE FAST SK8 FASTER!!

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  • May 4, 2019 at 7:05 am
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    Indies won by far in the newer days 🤣

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  • May 4, 2019 at 9:00 pm
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    Pickup… lol

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  • May 9, 2019 at 1:16 am
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    I had all your boards skating Upland pipe growing up there. Tried most of them ended up Tracker with Oj 2’s one small riser and any board left!

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  • May 9, 2019 at 1:18 am
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    Then Independent for life!

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  • May 9, 2019 at 11:42 am
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    I just trash picked a Jeremy Rogers Silver truck.

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  • May 10, 2019 at 3:55 pm
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    We had rip off trackers here in Australia called 'street suckers' that looked identical but they didn't have the king pin moulded into the base plate like trackers so you could replace the king pin and didn't have to buy a new base plate. I only ever seen one pair of trackers ever, I don't think any shops even sold em and no one would buy em anyway coz of the king pin thing and we could get street suckers for less than half the price. They came in only fluoro colours with black base plates and had really shit rubbers that needed to be changed immediately for some Indy ones or clouds before that.

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  • May 30, 2019 at 1:39 am
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    I remember Tracker trucks with the plastic base. Those models sucked because they would crack and stick when grinding. Indy and Venture would grind the best for me. Skated in Fresno, CA back in the 80’s. My homeboys and I were the first to grind all of the curbs. The old days! Thanks for the video.

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  • June 7, 2019 at 3:50 pm
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    Bones bushings kill.

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  • June 9, 2019 at 10:31 pm
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    Back in the day, Indy’s all the way! Dunno bout nowadays…

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  • June 18, 2019 at 4:30 am
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    In Search of Animal Chin!

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  • July 14, 2019 at 1:11 am
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    G&S trucks, grind anything

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  • July 16, 2019 at 7:25 am
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    Dylan…back Smith…RIP!!

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