– Hi, I’m Emmy and I make videos on YouTube on Emmymade in Japan, and I make videos about food, but I’m interested in all kinds of things unusual and curious. And today I’m here with Atlas Obscura at the New York Academy of Medicine to explore the oldest
cookbook of the West. I want to investigate the recipes and see if I could recreate
them in my kitchen. – Hi! – Hi, Arlene. Emmy. – Nice to meet you.
– Good to meet you. Oh my gosh! – Welcome to the Rare Book Room at the New York Academy of Medicine. – [Emmy] Look at this place! How many books are in here? – We have about 10,000 cookery
items in this collection. – Oh my goodness.
– Because of the connection between nutrition, cookery, and health. – Of course. So my little kind of jaunt
into historical recipes started with the series
called “Hard Times” where exploring recipes that we’re made from times of difficulty and scarcity which just really interests me, and then it’s become for me a matter of how was this recipe made? And then of course what it tastes like. (cookie crunching) Pretty good crunch on that. All right, Arlene, I think I’m ready to see the Apicius. – I’m Arlene Shaner, I’m the historical collections librarian here in the Barry and Bobbi Coller Rare Book Room at the New York Academy of Medicine. And my job is to share the collections that we have in the library with
all kinds of audiences. – [Emmy] Oh my gosh! – This is the beginning of the Apicius. The Apicius was penned in a monastery in Fulda, Germany, around the year 830. It is the earliest
cookery text in the West. It gives us a set of recipes
from the Mediterranean Basin. They date back to around
the fourth century. So people have been fascinated by this manuscript and
this text for as long as it’s been written. It has lots of meat recipes using pork, using hare, using poultry. Then there are animals that
we probably wouldn’t eat like dormice. – So, for people who don’t read Latin… – Like me? – …there’s help. And there are lots of critical editions, but this is the most recent one and the most scholarly one. – So this is compendium of recipes. – Yes. – But you would have
to be a learned person to know, to be able to read them. – Well, you would have
to be able to read them, but they’re not recipes really
the way we think of recipes. We have-
– Oh, my gosh! – You know, basically sauce for flamingo. – Yes! – They did in fact eat flamingos. They ate peacocks, they ate birds that we probably wouldn’t think about, and it tells you what’s in it, but it doesn’t give
you any amounts, right? – No, it doesn’t. – Pepper, lovage, cumin, celery seed, roasted hazelnuts or almonds, or any kind of other skinned nut, a little bit of honey, liquamen. – Wow! – But it doesn’t tell you how to make it. The assumption is that
the person who’s cooking really already knows how to do that. – Right. – Can we look at the
deep-fried honey fritters? Yes. – So those are in chapter seven. – So, I think I’ve isolated it down to a deep-fried, honey fritter
recipe that sounds amazing because it’s just deep-fried
dough with honey and pepper. – Recreating recipes from this text can be a little bit challenging. The recipes don’t really look like the kinds of recipes that we are used to. When we take a cookbook off the shelf, we expect to see really
precise instructions, we expect to know how
much of every ingredient we’re going to need, and the recipes here are
often much less precise. So, she’s going to need to
rely on her own expertise to figure out how to cook something because the instructions are not really going to tell her that. – This sounds absolutely feasible. I am so curious to see
what the black pepper would taste like with that. I feel like funnel cakes have
been legitimized (laughs). Compared to my expectations, it was much more a richer experience. Flamingo, references to parrots, and just a whole section on quadrupeds. That’s a great way to organize a chapter: four legs (laughs). I don’t think you can actually get an idea of what this is until you
actually see it and then touch it. So, now I’m really excited to
actually take these recipes into the kitchen and
see what I come up with. Thanks so much for watching
my collab with Atlas Obscura. Be sure to like and
subscribe to their channel for more videos like this one, and then immediately
head over to my channel to see me actually make
this ancient recipe. Look, that’s gorgeous! Looks like cereal, but it’s not. It’s ancient fried dough.

The Oldest Cookbook of the West is in New York City | Gastro Obscura

51 thoughts on “The Oldest Cookbook of the West is in New York City | Gastro Obscura

  • September 26, 2019 at 1:34 pm
    Permalink

    It's EMMY! She gets everywhere lol.

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:35 pm
    Permalink

    EMMY GANG EMMY GANG

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:39 pm
    Permalink

    If Emmymadeinjapan, Objectivity and Townsends had a collaborative channel, this would probably be their video

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:44 pm
    Permalink

    Omg Emmy in Atlas Obscura!! Best colab ever!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:47 pm
    Permalink

    I'm so glad y'all collaborated! ❤️ both channels!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:47 pm
    Permalink

    This is too cool, it would be amazing to go to this library. Also, the librarian looks like she should be in a Harry Potter movie

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:54 pm
    Permalink

    Very cool episode! I'm already subscribed to both channels! 👍🏻❤🤗

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 1:57 pm
    Permalink

    Emmy sent me! Subscribed !

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 2:03 pm
    Permalink

    YAAAY!!! Finally, video evidence that I actually met and touched the Apicius, the oldest cookbook of the West. ✨

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 2:07 pm
    Permalink

    I'm here because of my love for Emmy. 😆

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 2:16 pm
    Permalink

    We absolutely loved working with Emmy. Curious as to what recipe she picked? Find out here: https://youtu.be/dHbhPJ4Y5-k
    See more of Emmy's channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzqbfYjQmf9nLQPMxVgPhiA

    Subscribe for more videos like this: https://trib.al/GD9qhdX
    Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/atlasobscura
    Tweet us: https://www.twitter.com/atlasobscura
    Explore our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atlasobscura

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 2:21 pm
    Permalink

    Yay for Emmy! And yay for this awesome cookbook!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 2:48 pm
    Permalink

    I almost watched these backwards but THIS IS SO COOL!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 3:04 pm
    Permalink

    Both, obscure and fascinating.

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 3:22 pm
    Permalink

    I'm not from the west (I'm from the Philippines) but dang isn't this so interesting

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 3:30 pm
    Permalink

    Came here from Emmy’s video! ❤️

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 3:36 pm
    Permalink

    What I love about Emmy is how absolutely unique she is. So humble and intelligent with a healthy dose of whimsical curiosity thrown in for good measure. She's amazing ❤

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 3:42 pm
    Permalink

    What a pleasant video and what a nice personality they both have. Subscribed+

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 4:15 pm
    Permalink

    Iconic

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 5:14 pm
    Permalink

    The Rare Book Room at the New York Academy of Medicine. Wow!
    I'd be afraid to go in there because I'd never want to leave.

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 5:21 pm
    Permalink

    Best team up evar!!!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 5:42 pm
    Permalink

    omg…….Emmy is so tiny and adorable..

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 5:44 pm
    Permalink

    I LOVE old book collections! The scent of paper, ink, leather and time, the voices within the books (yes! Books have voices! Libraries are full of quiet murmurings)…
    My oldest book was printed (you can feel the imprint of the type on paper) in the late 1790s.
    This is a delight to watch.

    Thank you!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 5:50 pm
    Permalink

    OMG, that place is magical!!! I love 💕 Emmy!!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 6:12 pm
    Permalink

    What's the style of filming called where you look off camera as if you're talking to an interviewer? You see it all over TV.

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 6:17 pm
    Permalink

    Thank you for collaborating with Emmy! What a cool video. I also checked out your page, and now I’m a new subscriber! I love history!!! Thank you again🙏🏻💜🤘🏻

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 6:39 pm
    Permalink

    My two favorite YouTube channels together!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 6:46 pm
    Permalink

    This would be my dream job. To be among ancient and rare books all day long, I would be in heaven!!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 6:54 pm
    Permalink

    Emmy is awesome….just one thing: flamingo: four legs?
    (I think I screwed that up.)

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 8:38 pm
    Permalink

    Not wearing gloves whilst handling an ancient book is giving me anxiety

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 8:54 pm
    Permalink

    As a Latin student it's really cool to see this!

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 9:01 pm
    Permalink

    What an experience that must have been, that library is awesome. And being able to see and touch the Apicius, amazing. So happy to have been able to see this collaboration between you both. Beautifully done!!❤️🌹

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 9:55 pm
    Permalink

    "You also make the same sauce for parrot."

    Reply
  • September 26, 2019 at 11:00 pm
    Permalink

    Wow! I came here from Emmy's channel. Subscribed!😋

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 12:25 am
    Permalink

    That library looks like my idea of heaven. Too bad I live over a thousand miles away.

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 1:16 am
    Permalink

    Love how Emmy wore the same outfit she wears in her house.
    No fakeness everything. <3

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 2:08 am
    Permalink

    Arlene isn’t a muggle

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 2:57 am
    Permalink

    I found you via Emmy, love her and have now sub's to you too! thanks for having her on….off to watch Emmy make honey fritters now.

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 5:56 am
    Permalink

    Here from Emmy's channel

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 6:16 am
    Permalink

    Ya did right by our girl. ✌

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 7:25 am
    Permalink

    The BEST collaboration EVER!! Forget the Beauty Gurus and ASMR Chewers!

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 8:08 am
    Permalink

    This recipe reminds me of Jerusalem kugel, or "kugel yerushalmi" it's kugel from thin egg noodles that absorb a mixture of egg, black pepper, and carmalized sugar that form into a kind of dense cake that you can slice. I know it sounds awful and super weird but it's absolutely amazing and so unique. It's sweet (but not too sweet) and has a nice flavor and kick of spice from the black pepper. The pepper is what really makes the recipe good, it takes something that would have been plain and sweet into something with a complex, deep, almost smokey flavor and the texture is really interesting too. If you haven't tried kugel yerushalmi I definitely recommend finding some to try. Ohhh, I love me some good kugels!!

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 10:11 am
    Permalink

    Came from Emmy's link! That library is so beautiful!!!! And the curator was so kind and helpful~ What a dream of a day…I would love to go and have a look around…

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 4:56 pm
    Permalink

    This is so cool! I'm an early medievalist, specialising in the Carolingian world and yet I had no idea this ms existed. Such a fascinating insight into life at Fulda.

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 7:22 pm
    Permalink

    Aren’t they supposed to wear white gloves when they are handling this kinda stuff to protect it????!

    Reply
  • September 27, 2019 at 10:41 pm
    Permalink

    Using hair? Oh, using hare 😂

    Reply
  • September 28, 2019 at 1:17 am
    Permalink

    subscribed indeed!

    Reply
  • September 28, 2019 at 2:10 am
    Permalink

    Here for Emmy!!

    Reply
  • September 28, 2019 at 8:28 am
    Permalink

    Oh wow!😮😍

    Reply
  • September 28, 2019 at 8:32 am
    Permalink

    That was so incredibly fascinating! I came here from Emmy’s channel. I had never heard of the Apicius until now. Thank you for sharing this with us! ❤️👍

    Reply
  • September 28, 2019 at 10:08 pm
    Permalink

    It’s EMMY!!♥️

    Reply

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *