The word “Propaganda” get’s used a lot
in criticism of media today and over the last… well, 50 or 60 years, mostly in an incorrect
or at least misapplied way; which is to say it gets used as a criticism in itself rather
than as a neutrally descriptive matter of fact term. From about the mid-20th to the
now 21st Century, you almost exclusively hear it applied in an accusatory fashion, i.e.
“This is propaganda” thus implying that the subject at hand both should not be propaganda
and that propaganda itself is inherently negative – but for the great majority of history that
wasn’t always the case. “Propaganda” – which, broadly defined,
I imagine most people do correctly understand to mean some for of art, literature, performance,
presentation etc (usually but not exclusively of an over-the-top, bombastic variety) that
explicitly puts forth a one-sided, agenda-driven narrative of support for a political movement,
ideology, belief system, whatever – “marketing,” but to convince you to invest moral or philosophical
commitment rather than money. In the United States and Europe, most people’s
concept of “propaganda” in its base, most obvious form usually means our collective
cultural memory of patriotic “morale-boosting” advertising by both the Allies and Axis during
WWII; mainly because this is the last time our culture generally remembers engaging in
Propaganda in its pure form: willingly, and for the most part in full proud awareness
of what they were watching and why. See, today we think of “Propaganda” and being
“propagandized to” as being interchangeable with gaslighting, subliminal advertising or
“brainwashing;” because the immediate post-war era begat the Madison Avenue Era of mass-media
advertising and the rise of the omnipresent psuedo self-aware style of “I’m affecting
a self-consciously obvious smug tone in order to convey that we both know this is an advertisement
so that you’ll feel I respect you even as I proceed to sell you something anyway” therein…
…so as such, we imagine previous eras of message-media consumers looking at earnest,
unironic propagandist mythologizing of… anything, really as being simply less savvy
than us – staring slack jawed at the bright lights, and pretty colors and loud noises. The truth of the matter is though, for the most part Americans going to see wartime pick-me-ups like The Fighting Sullivans or
Donald Duck in “Der Fuher’s Face” in WWII (or The Battleship Potemkin back in the 20s
in Russia or Germans going to see Triumph of Will in the 30s for that matter) knew and
enthusiastically expected going in that they were the choir and this was going to preach
to them – as it had for most of history to that point, “propaganda” mostly meant
pep-rally “I’m already on The Team, now charge me up to keep cheering!”
But, as noted a moment ago, post-WWII 1950s brought modernism, postmodernism and self-referential
irony (or, at least, a self-flattering “I can tell you’re a customer of discernment,
sir or madam!” version thereof) into being as the dominant tone of American media voice;
which meant that earnest, direct “You are the righteous good guys who backed the right
side here’s why!” propagandist appeal stopped holding cultural appeal outside the realms
of juvenile fiction, sports and specific performative rituals of religious holidays or, like, the
Fourth of July and parades. As such, the concept of “propaganda” in
popular culture quickly became associated exclusively with foreign cultures that still
practiced it without irony – chiefly, propaganda materials produced by The Soviet Union, in
particular the specific stylistic aesthetics of “The Department of Agitation and Propaganda”
or “Agitprop” – you’ve seen this style, that’s what it’s called. And since the
USSR and Soviet Bloc Communism was the big boogieman of the Cold War, Agitprop on their
end was seen not simply as old-fashioned and “tacky” but inherently villainous… which
had the side-effect of rendering any attempt at a direct tit-for-tat propaganda counter
from side of the U.S. look, well, if not equally “villainous” at least more “Punisher”
than “Captain America.” And the for people actually tasked with quote-unquote
“fighting” the Cold War on the non-guns-and-missiles front – that was a problem: From the perspective
U.S. and Democratic European intelligence operatives, the Soviet Union had a huge advantage
in the “soft power” front of advancing their cause through the combination of Agitprop
and the mainstream popular arts because – even under Stalinism’s increasingly-oppressive
shadow, Russia had deep and longstanding connections to the grand traditions of respectable pan-European
art, literature, theater, music and cinema: It was only natural, for example, that the
most powerful Socialist country would dominate in an era when one of the sweeping art and
literary trends was Social and/or Socialist-Realism. The center of the concern on the “pro-democracy” side then was that the emergent main postwar champion of the form – the United States… was not
seen by anyone as a serious player in those fields. Oh sure, American culture
was popular – but Coca-Cola, Norman Rockwell, Superman and the Mickey Mouse Gang were not
the cultural titans that were going to convince the generation of vibrant University-bound
young minds in Europe, Asia and Latin America whose allegiance would likely decide the outcome
of the 20th Century whether to pledge Team Eagle or Team Bear. And, of course, a Communist
country has the advantage of just being able to order such state-mandated creative productions
into being whereas the United States where Mister Rogers has to Washington and make Congress
cry just to keep PBS on the air…? Not so much.
So who handled this? …the CIA as it turnout. Yeah, once a closely-guarded secret whispered and
joked-about in the halls of power but now fairly well-reported in books like Eric Bennett’s
“Workshops of Empire,” Frances Stonor Saunders’ “Who Paid the Piper? The CIA
and the Cultural Cold War,” Joel Whitney’s “Finks: How the CIA Tricked the World’s
Best Writers” and …several others; for a good long stretch of the “hot part”
of the early Cold War there was a veritable gold rush of CIA programs wherein middlemen
(and women!) with strong anti-Soviet ideals and/or solid connections to the world of art,
literature and academia created false-front operations, schmoozed billionaire donors who were really, really interested in keeping the United States from having a communist revolution of its own, that would raise their taxes and generally busted their asses – covertly! – to essentially “create” American cutting-edge
art and high-end literary movements (that also felt organically pro-Western-Liberal-Democracy
in ideology) essentially out of thin air. And the thing is… it worked. In fact, this
might have been the most successful thing the CIA did during the Cold War, all the things
considered: By now most people have heard about the moral and tactical disasters involved
with attempted coups in Latin America and Cuba getting involved with The Shah in
Iran, the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan turning into The Taliban… I mean it’s kind of a crappy
record, to be honest. But, like as art promoters, music agents and creative writing teachers?
…Yeah! I mean it sounds like I’m joking… because it’s funny, but they were actually really
good at that! But okay: “The Agency’s” big success
stories (that we know of) in this era of Propaganda That Wasn’t were The Congress for Cultural
Freedom and The Farfield Foundation. The CCF was a front organization operating in Europe
and eventually the rest of the world that essentially allowed the CIA to funnell money
and influence to dozens of different literary and art journals and all over the continent
to organize gallery shows, concerts, performances, and the like for American and Democratic European artists and performers in order to show off the creative prowess of “The Free World” – this was
largely how the music of Leonard Bernstein, George Gershwin, the plays of Lillian Hellman,
Eugene O’Neill, Tennessee Williams, Clifford Odets, and John Steinbeck, the writing of
Thurber, Alcott, Hemmingway, Cousins, Sandburg, Faulker, Wolfe and hundreds of others first
found distribution outside the United States. Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington and Dizzy
Gillespie were conscripted to personally tour as Jazz Ambassadors to demonstrations of the uniquely American Jazz form and U.S. racial progress – Many, indeed most of those involved never having
been aware of any level of covert involvement in their endeavors. Now The Farfield Foundation, on the other hand, is much closer to what people think of when they think spooky,
vaguely sketchy, uncomfortable “were they allowed to do that without us knowing?” spycraft
stuff – at least in the broad strokes, even if it’s mostly still about money changing
hands enough times before it gets to a place for plausible deniability. Farfield was a way for The Agency to pump money into American-made art and literature which – rather than having
a “Patriotic” or “pro-Democracy” message… at least didn’t have an explicit “pro-Communist”
or “Soviet-helpful” message. This was the radical proposition at the time they were working with: If people weren’t going to “buy into” propaganda outright, you don’t fund propaganda – you just fund everything that’s not the other guy’s propaganda. Farfield’s two most lasting legacies were
Agency ally Paul Engel’s long tenure as the director of the incredibly influential
Iowa Writer’s Workshop, where he shaped it into a talent-farm for Pulitzer winning fiction
writers and a national model for American creative writing courses… which, many will
contend, is precisely why so much of the last 40-50 years of American popular fiction is
so similar and also adheres to a set of seemingly “apolitical” rules that nonetheless make writing a
socialist or “class-oriented” story pretty difficult in context, like the maxim that good literature should
place theme and metaphor in the subtext rather than the foreground text, leave interpretation
largely to the reader, focus on “sensations, not doctrines; ­experiences, not dogmas;
memories, not philosophies” (or – as you’ve more commonly heard it put: “Show – don’t
tell.”) [both] “Whoa.” “Whoa!” “Whaa.” “Wooow.” “Whoa!” “Whoa.” Yeah. That’s where that comes from. And that’s why.
It’s also why this painting by Jackson is worth $200 Million dollars. Yeah – no, really,
this is completely true. See, prior to and during WWII the popular art scene in the United
States was dominated by Social Realism, but especially once the Soviet Union and it’s
satellites aggressively adopted the uniformity of Social-ist Realist art and Soviet Classical
architecture as the “official style” of the The Republic in the mid-30s, Abstract,
Cubist and other non-realist artists had made their way westward and had transformed Paris
and New York into core emergent art scenes for what became (among other things) “modernism”
– I’m simplifying a lot of art history here because there’s a lot of this… But, the short version, the moment the CIA and The Farfield Foundation laid eyes on the work
of Jackson Pollock, Mark Rothko, Willem de Kooning, etc doing what was essentially the
throwing paint around version of freeform jazz and recognized that this was literally
as direct an opposite to Socialist Realism as you could get (since the Soviet model was
all message, all form, all the time… and this was about and this is formless abstraction of abstraction) and was literally about nothing they said “Yeah, we need to dump all the money on whatever this is”
…and that lead the lavish placement of the suddenly-everywhere “hot new style” of art at Agency-connected billionaire Nelson Rockerfeller’s Museum of Modern Art in New York and soon touring
in massive demand around Europe; carrying with it (as the unseen benefactors had surely hoped)
a revolutionary new cultural zeitgeist of artistic and literary thought: One that said
the true artist should be free of politics, messages, and ideology, turned-on and dropped-out
from the dreary philosophical wars of politicians and seeking higher truths and pure aesthetic
forms. Ya’ know, a sort of an “on we” driven intellectualize rejection of… “Giving a shit” basically that’s generally thought to have effectively blunted the cultural tide of Soviet
philosophy among the postwar European Left to some extent, did undeniably get a ton of
really interesting artwork and artists out there regardless of why and also undeniable bit the more Conservative players among the CIA Cold Warriors who’d been nudged it all into place right in the ass when it was re-exported back to the U.S. as “The Beatniks” so irony… “Not a great plan.” given ya’ know everything that followed after that.
Oh, also by the mid-60s Newspapers like the New York Times started to, ya’ know report on the CIA
having done stuff like this so they kinda had to, ya’ know, stop. Mostly.
…But yeah, that all happened. “What?” And uh, while I know some of it may have seemed a bit not-entirely in the typically “Big Picture” wheelhouse especially if you mainly started watching
since the comeback, I hope some of you learned something weird and wild you didn’t necessarily know before. And I also know many of you are asking: “So… does that kind of thing still happen??”
– Yes it does. And I’m gonna tell you about it next time. “Whoa!”

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  • October 1, 2019 at 4:09 pm
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    Watch today's episode: Is Joker Facing Outrage For All the Wrong Reasons? – https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/2019/10/01/joker-film-outrage-wrong-reasons-the-big-picture/

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  • October 2, 2019 at 1:34 am
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    Please let the next episode be aboout how Captain Marvel is imperialist propaganda with some apolitical feminist wallpaper.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:09 am
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    I like your movie reviews but I enjoy these videos much more. Very well done and beautifully put together.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:13 am
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    Well I think Bob's certainly got the tell part handled! (said lovingly, not critically)

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:17 am
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    Not-so-fun fact:
    Birth of a Nation is often cited as the first feature film and it still gets praise from people today despite the fact that its repugnant on nearly every level. What we can take away from this is the fact that cinema as we know it today spawned from propaganda (and an especially despicable propaganda piece at that)

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:25 am
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    Thank you for this. Think about doing a long version of this. Please.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:26 am
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    MORE OF THIS PLEASE

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:28 am
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    This overlaps significantly with the content of my "Theory of Visual Arts" class, which I have found to be exceedingly tedious and boring, despite being an art major. But goddamn you somehow make it compelling and now I want to learn more. Please come teach my class MovieBob.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:30 am
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    As of 7:30pm October 1st (pacific time), 63 CIA agents have watched Bob's video.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:37 am
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    This was refreshingly different. I loved this video. Make more of this this is cool.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:53 am
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    whoa

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:54 am
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    some of your best work yet, Bob. keep em coming

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  • October 2, 2019 at 3:53 am
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    Algorithm

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  • October 2, 2019 at 3:55 am
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    interesting stuff

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  • October 2, 2019 at 4:10 am
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    This was a great episode.. keep these coming

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  • October 2, 2019 at 4:12 am
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    Wait what!??!!>!>!csdjhfuksefisdfsdf OK my mind has been blown.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:10 am
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    Best moviebob episode yet!

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:34 am
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    I always knew those Pollock paintings were crap.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 6:26 am
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    I never noticed his accent before this video

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  • October 2, 2019 at 7:39 am
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    The way Bob says farfield is one of those oddly satisfying thungs

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  • October 2, 2019 at 7:43 am
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    Holy shit I just learned a lot there
    Also wow that is a lot of stuff that could have been like 3 or 4 hours if you talked in detail which I'm sire you could
    If you nade a lecture on this shit in a more slow less fast talky style more slow giving each point time to digest I would watch that

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  • October 2, 2019 at 7:58 am
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    my FUCKING God I LOVE this fucking shit give me ALL of the cultural and communications history

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:05 am
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    Great historisk episode though it seemed you wanted to cram a ton of footnotes in that you did not have time for.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:13 am
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    This is my favourite episode of all time. Thanks Bob.

    Consider this a vote in favour of more content like this.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:30 am
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    socialism sounds good in theory, but it always ends with a CIA backed coup XD

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:49 am
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    God ! Do you even breathe ?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 10:27 am
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    I cant believe they showed a pic from Epic Rap Battles of History on this

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:01 am
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    Damn, mind blown.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:09 am
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    0_0

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:13 am
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    To all the gullible idiots in the comments – this is NOT the origin of Show, dont Tell… not even close to it. Do what Bob could not be bothered to do – basic Google search.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:19 am
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    Well.. That actually explains a lot.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:39 am
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    I've always found it odd when people are surprised by things like this. The only reason the USA became a superpower instead of remaining a distant & insular, for want of a better word, colony was because of cultural exports & of course the government would need to have a hand in this in order to cover the expense of it all. Honestly, I think the only reason the USA ever joined the Second World War in Europe is because they realised they could lend money to the Allies & make a profit off it whilst spreading "American values" across the planet in one giant self-funding propaganda machine.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:46 am
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    You know, it would be cool to see Keanu Reeves and Brad Pitt in the same film. The perfect duo in comedy and action. Yeah, that's all I got from this.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:47 am
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    I just want a video now where you discuss whether the origins of Show don't Tell invalidate it, or whether it was a good maxim despite that

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:51 am
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    I remember discussing this a bit when I was studying animation, my university did a screening of Animal Farm including a behind the scenes thing that screened before it and a lot of the animators mentioned that they thought they were never going to fund the thing until some American investors got very interested for some reason

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:54 am
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    Don't underestimate the amount of cocaine and other drugs the CIA consumed during that era. They were out of their fucking minds.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 12:04 pm
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    Well done Bob! Keep up the good work.
    I'm really looking forward to where this is going.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 12:49 pm
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    I learn something today. Thank you.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 12:55 pm
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    I'm surprisingly okay with the CIA undermining political ideology clashes by aimlessly throwing money at counterculture?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 1:01 pm
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    holy shit

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  • October 2, 2019 at 1:08 pm
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    My only point of contention, and I don't blame you for this Bob because it's an often quoted but factually incorrect idea that the Mujihadeen we trained an armed in the 1980's became the Taliban. In fact our "friendly" warlords would become the Northern alliance after the Taliban arrived on the scene who fought the Taliban up until the Taliban fell following 9/11

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  • October 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm
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    This might be my favorite episode of yours. So much I had no idea about.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 1:49 pm
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    just a fucking awesome history lesson

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:14 pm
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    So in other words being non-political is in fact a political standing set up by the CIA to fight communism cool.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:25 pm
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    Well, one of my favorite episodes Bob. I don't know what was weirder. The story, or how easy it was to accept. Funny how for all the idealism that marks the window dressing of The Cold War… all it really amounted to was a few groups of people trying to maintain and consolidate power. The CIA didn't care about democracy anymore than the KGB cared about communism… Just average Joes and Boris clocking in and doing whatever the boss assigned them that day to collect a paycheck.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 2:35 pm
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    Woah….

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  • October 2, 2019 at 3:12 pm
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    This is very fascinating, Bob. I would like to see where this is all going… Could you please cite some references so those of us who wish to delve deeper into this can investigate on our own?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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    Don't put politics in my propaganda!

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  • October 2, 2019 at 3:28 pm
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    So, technically, the CIA created modern society. So, if I go against society, I can technically say I'm just going against the CIA?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 4:32 pm
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    I'm counting the days till Bob gets black-bagged by the CIA for telling everyone the truth

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  • October 2, 2019 at 4:52 pm
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    we live in a rock opera. the sooner we realise this, the sooner we can find lin minmay

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  • October 2, 2019 at 4:54 pm
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    What the fuck?! Art was celebrated and had even benefited from Soviet Rule? Are you fucking out of your mind? Are you aware that not only is this patently false, but amounts to historical revisionism?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:16 pm
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    In my mother tong (portuguese), "propaganda" usually is used as a synonym to "advertisement/commercial", so I used to be very confused when hearing people using this term in english with this meaning more related to politics

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:23 pm
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    I love learning shit!

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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    Just as I was thinking, "Wow, Bob is actually making a video without his usual ORANGE MAN BAD! screeching," he manages to portray resistance to Communism – the ideology which in its attendant Fascist and Socialist variants* is responsible for over 100 MILLION people slaughtered/genocided/starved – as being just "rich guys worried about paying more taxes, those greedy bastards. Vote Bernie!" Pffft. He can't help himself.

    *They're all the same statist construct, so all you morons who've been programmed to believe "fascism is right-wing, like Republicans" can STFU yesterday.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:39 pm
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    I like capitalism and traditional aesthetic, but Jesus Christ, funding modern art and stupid American heroes using flag colors is like selling your soul to the devil.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 5:57 pm
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    I loved everything about this and can't wait until part 2.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 6:20 pm
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    studied a lot of art history and i learned something from this, thumbs up

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  • October 2, 2019 at 6:34 pm
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    Seriously one of the best you've done so far, Bob. Well researched, thoughtful and insightful breakdown of the subject. Can't wait to see part 2!

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  • October 2, 2019 at 7:26 pm
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    so, what i've learned is that everyone who ever said "get your politics out of my video games" is a CIA shill?

    where do i get my pin for being a good CIA shill?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 7:40 pm
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    Is "show, don't tell" why so many writers using the third-person narrative feel the need to "show" exposition using the character's thoughts or words instead of just "telling" the reader the relevant information? I mean it's fine when it comes about naturally but frequently relating it "through the character" that way comes off feeling very forced and out of character.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 8:01 pm
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    Holyshit! I have been turning over and over in my head the observation that over the past decades we have become much more apathetic, especially when it comes to being involved in our own politics, noting the aesthetic that includes that kind of apathy, and wondering where it came from. This, to say the least, is quite the mine blower. I obviously missed out on a few really interesting college courses. Thanks Bob! By the way, where can I take courses on this stuff?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 8:04 pm
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    Good video, wonder how far pt2 wil go

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  • October 2, 2019 at 8:55 pm
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    4:32 well timed Liberty Mutual ad

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:03 pm
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    Christian propaganda like God's Not Dead is probably as close to a modern version as this gets.

    Please roast them.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:08 pm
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    Funny that you using shorts of the MCU seeing that most of their movies were pay your beloved sponsor the U. S. military.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:12 pm
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    A popular thing I keep hearing from people is "I wish they stopped making films so political. Why can't we have films be not political like they used to be."
    I still wonder where this non-political film goldenage is

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:37 pm
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    Good bob.

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  • October 2, 2019 at 9:55 pm
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    Ooohhh. Are we going to talk about the U.S. Military's close and intimate relationship with Hollywood next time?

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  • October 2, 2019 at 11:25 pm
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    Louis Armstrong advanced civil rights legislation in his capacity as a secret America-promoting jazz ambassador? That's a fucking movie! If a woman inventing a mop gets a movie, this does, for crying out loud!

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  • October 3, 2019 at 12:00 am
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    Ok it may have been meant as a joke but people know that their were almost no taxes in the soviet union, right? The state organized the economy which meant it had no need to get taxes or waste money convincing people to buy with advertising. Outside of times of crisis the economy and the government are much less intrusive under socialism then its alternatives

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  • October 3, 2019 at 12:13 am
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    This is amazing – great work

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  • October 3, 2019 at 1:09 am
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    Remember in Captain America Winter Soldier when it turns out Hydra was behind everything all along? My first reaction was: "So Hydra is the CIA then"

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  • October 3, 2019 at 2:18 am
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    This was good, more like this please, Bob.

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  • October 3, 2019 at 6:46 am
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    Please go dump your communist apologist bullshit on your own channel. Thank you for understanding.

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  • October 3, 2019 at 6:51 am
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    This was easily my favorite episode of the Big Picture.

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  • October 3, 2019 at 7:22 am
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    I approve of this message

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  • October 3, 2019 at 1:08 pm
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    "Pro democracy side"
    Lololololol Blob, you giant imbecile

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  • October 3, 2019 at 1:21 pm
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    Ought to make more of this sort of video

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  • October 3, 2019 at 2:36 pm
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    whyareyoutalkingsofastyoureallowedtotakeabreathithelpswithemphasisandpacingtoletusunderstandthekeypoints

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  • October 3, 2019 at 2:43 pm
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    So when PJW, JBP, Prager and other numbnuts from the neo-conservative "anti-SJW"/"anti-postmodern cultural marxism"/"anti-whatever bullshit buzzword we just made up" crowd call postmodern art the death of Western culture at the hands of leftism, they are blaming socialists for literal pro-capitalist Cold War propaganda?
    That is the most beautiful bit of irony I have ever seen and I feel blessed to know about it.

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  • October 3, 2019 at 3:52 pm
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    Fun Fact: In Colombia we call propaganda to all ads and commercials.

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  • October 3, 2019 at 4:11 pm
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    Woah

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  • October 3, 2019 at 5:03 pm
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    Bob's a psyop

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  • October 3, 2019 at 8:54 pm
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    Normally a "whoa" montage is one of the most vain and self-serving things someone can put in their video, but, uh… yeah, you earned that one Bob. Jesus.

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  • October 4, 2019 at 3:30 am
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    Well that was a lot to take in lol. pretty cool

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  • October 4, 2019 at 5:41 am
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    This is a great episode I’ve got to say

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  • October 4, 2019 at 11:11 am
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    Captain Marvel was propaganda for the Air Force 😮
    So was Stargate

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  • October 4, 2019 at 2:24 pm
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    Great video, I don't think the extreme talking speed really fits the intricate discussion though. Especially with a hard to understand accent.

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  • October 4, 2019 at 2:38 pm
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    amazing thank you man!

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  • October 4, 2019 at 3:02 pm
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    You just blew my goddamn mind.

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  • October 4, 2019 at 6:14 pm
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    This may be my favorite show you have ever done!

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  • October 4, 2019 at 8:27 pm
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    Me, going about my day.
    Bob: "Oh hey, did you know that everything you know about 'good' writing, and the entire modern art movement, was promoted by the CIA to counter Soviet propaganda?"

    Oh. Huh. That's a thing.

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  • October 4, 2019 at 9:57 pm
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    This video didn't suck. Good job Bob.

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  • October 5, 2019 at 11:25 am
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    Huge fan Mr. Chipman.
    And this is some of your best work.
    Well paced and digestable.
    Keep it up.

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  • October 5, 2019 at 10:47 pm
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    Thanks

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  • October 6, 2019 at 3:40 pm
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    Damn, that was such a great episode

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  • October 7, 2019 at 2:50 pm
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    Sources where/??/?

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  • October 7, 2019 at 5:23 pm
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    Bob, I've followed you since your debut on the escapist. This is one of your best works, and definitely a shift in focus worth exploring more as a break from the usual material for a lot of reasons. May the algorithm not screw you for it.

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