Hello everyone! I’m Bitches Bruze;
eight-year derby veteran, coach, and referee. You may have heard me broadcast on WFTDA.tv as Amy Jo Moore. Today I’d like to talk about pack
definition or to get alliterative on y’all something
the rules like to call Pack, Proximity, and Position. I’m going to assume you know what is considered to be the most basic flat track roller derby stuff. You know, the things they called Derby
101. Each team gets five skaters on the track. The one with the star is the scoring skater. After the first lap she gets points for
passing opponents. Jams go for two minutes. The lead jammer can end the jam before
two minutes. And blockers stop the opposing jammer
and help their own. Alright. That’s groovy. If you’ve been to
a bout or done any kinda following of derby on
the web, if you’ve heard that once you’ve probably heard it at least a
hundred times. Still, so many people struggle with the basics of game play because no one ever explains
about the pack other than it’s the blockers on the
track. Flat track roller derby is the
strategically challenging creature it is because of how the rules around pack
definition affect the game. While scoring in derby is
about races between two opposing jammers,
game play is about the constantly changing pack. That bears repeating. Roller derby game play is about the constantly changing pack. In order to
understand how packs, proximity, and position affect the game you have to have a perfect understanding
of what it means to have a pack. Section 3 of the WFTDA
rules as of January 2015 is dedicated to
defining the pack. to paraphrase the definition of pack, it
is the largest group up blockers, upright, on the track, from both teams, within 10 feet of each other. Whenever
the rules mention the word proximity it means ten feet, and when we say 10 feet in relation to the pack, is measured by the hips of the
skaters along the shortest distance parallel to the inside track boundary. Let’s take a quick look at what the
rules mean about that ten-foot measurement. We cannot simply draw a line between skaters hips and measure it. The ten feet as long a line parallel to the
inside check boundary imagine, if you will, that you were standing inside the track and
looking at the skaters as though they were drawn in a piece a
paper. It’s along that distance you measure. Sometimes it helps to look
at extremes. Here we have two blockers on the jammer
line one all the way to the outside of the track
and the other on all the way to the inside if we were to measure between their hips
alone he would be about thirteen and a half feet apart but along the line parallel to the
inside track boundary there exactly zero feet apart as one blocker moves along a
path parallel to the inside track boundary they’ll continue to be more than 10 feet
apart physically that along that parallel path in this
example there about nine feet apart. This applies anywhere on the track. We view that
distance perspective in 2d from the inside of the track. This can
be exceptionally confusing especially on the corners where the line parallel to the inside
isn’t actually drawn but has to be imagined tangentially to the inside corner. Let’s review that
pack definition again: it’s the largest group of blockers upright on the track from both teams within 10 feet of each other. Of course
sometimes a definition alone isn’t enough to get our heads around a
concept. To further clarify what the pack is, let’s also talk about what and
who is not the pack. If the largest group is the pack that
means groups that are smaller than the largest group are not a pack. Also same size groups can not be the
largest group. Superlatives count! It must be the
largest and only the largest not tied for largest. If the Packers made up of blockers
that means jammers do not count when determining the pack. This can be
really confusing when the jammers are mixed in with other blockers especially since the only thing that
visually distinguishes a jammer is their helmet cover. Because you must
be upright skaters who are not upright are not part
of the pack WFTDA’s definition of a upright is “not
down” and WFTDA’s definition down includes skaters who have fallen or been knocked
to the ground think of this as any body part on the
ground that is not otherwise mentioned. Have either or both knees on the ground.
A single knee pad on the ground means you’re not upright; two knee pads and you’re still not upright. Have both hands on the ground. If you are in the process of standing, stepping, or skating having one hand on
the ground is not down. but if you put both hands on the ground
you’re considered down and not upright. After going down or falling a skater is
considered down until the skater is standing, stepping, or skating. So if in the
process of getting up you find yourself on your skates and one hand you are still down until that hand also
comes off the ground. standing is not considered down or is a
skater in the process of falling who doesn’t have more than their skates and one hand on the ground. Jumping is
also not considered down. until a landing meets the definition of
down. So back to our scenario here where we have three blockers upright from one team and one blocker down from the other team. This group would clearly
not meet the definition of a pack because it only contains upright blockers from one team even
though there’s an opposing team blocker within proximity. The same “not the pack” status applies to
skaters who are not on the track. This group of three blockers on the
track are not a pack even though there’s an opposing blocker
in proximity because that opposing blocker is not on the track. If
the opposing black returns to the track legally and within proximity there might be a
pack here. My image here shows the obvious blocker physically not on the track. But
a blocker can be physically on the track and be considered not on
the track. What circumstance can a blocker be considered not on the track when they are physically on the track? If you said a blocker who’s been
assessed a penalty is not on the track even if they’re on
the track you’d be correct. A large group of skaters from only one
team cannot be the pack without someone from the other team in
proximity. By now you should have a solid
understanding of what makes the pack but let’s go over it one more time. It’s
the largest group blockers upright, on the track, from
both teams, within 10 feet of each other. The pack is
an important part of game play because it is the cornerstone of defining other things such as: pack speed, pack direction, and the Engagement Zone. The impacts of
pack speed and direction are beyond the scope of this video but the Engagement Zone is the very core of this video and the game of Derby. Ninety-nine percent to roller derby must
happen in the Engagement Zone. In a moment I’ll go over the definition of the Engagement Zone. but first let’s quickly look at what can only happen in the Engagement Zone. Blockers can block other blockers and
jammers. Jammers can block blockers. Blockers can assist
blockers. and jammers. Jammers can assist blockers and take assists off of blockers. The jammer helmet cover maybe passed. The next jammer pass begins on exiting. Blockers must remain in it or
immediately return to it and blockers outside the zone are scored
on in some instances. In order to find the Engagement Zone we
have to find the pack: the largest group the blockers with members from both teams, upright, within 10 feet each other. The Engagement Zone extends for twenty
feet or six meters behind the rearmost pack skater to 20 feet or
six meters in front of the foremost pack
skater It also exists only between the inside
and outside track boundaries All blockers who are upright and in the
engagement zone are “in play” and are allowed to play all that fun
Derby I talked about a moment ago We’ve gone over the piecees in the
process of determining the pack and finding the Engagement Zone, now
let’s take a look at the process as a whole when laid out like this looks kinda
complicated because the shortest path has two decisions and longest path has five
decisions and four processes. Not only that but in order to follow the
game we repeatedly and constantly cycle through this process. Let’s step through each decision in process and put together all our pieces let’s
start with the simplest direction through this process if after testing for a pack we find one
then we moved to the process of defining a gauge mints own watch the defining gauge concerning look
to see if there are any skaters outside the engagement soon if there are none everyone can engage
everyone else well let’s go back and look at the path
that there’s no pac if there’s no packed the first thing
that’s going to happen is the referees are going to warn bill pack and on that signal both teams are
equally responsible for reforming a pack then a determination must be made as to
why there was no pac was it an illegal destruction or
something that happened in the normal course gameplay in of offensive strategy teams
of them want to create and no pac with no blockers able to engage a jammer
can ski freely without opposition so it’s not
uncommon for skater a group of skaters to intentionally act to destroy the pack
actions which are considered illegal destruction of the pack are a
skater or skeeters running away more than 10 feet in front serve or behind the pack this includes
chasing the Chambre trying to speed the pet quickly getting
out a bit rapid racing to join their team and racing back in an attempt to draw
now to bounce catered backer force a cut a skater skaters breaking or coasting
more than 10 feet which includes intentionally stopping failing to propel attack speed or
slowing down as a result giving an assist and more intentionally
taking any intentionally falling intentionally
skating outta bounds hear any sudden deviation up speed by it
team skaters these actions alone are not a
legal but if they responsible for no pac than
they are a legal of course not all actions which
destroyed the pack are legal if your group a skater’s forms the pack a new force the only opponents down her
out of bounds there is no penalty if you go for a block and in the process
block you follow our skied out of bounds there is no penalty if no skater or team
of skaters is clearly responsible for the no pac
then there is no penalty yet it is determined the pack was
destroyed by one or more skaters that this is called destruction of pac and the referees will issue this out of
play penalty this skater most responsible up to $1 for each team regardless a
breeze both teams must be working to reform the
pack no pac reforms immediately the referees will issue a failure to
reform out of play penalty they will continue to issue these
penalties and check for a pack in this loop until there is a pack n once there is a pack we jump back to the
yes there is a pack part ever quote chart at this point the
check to see if there are any blockers outside be engaging and so on with all the blockers are in the thing
is a German cell number all said except that we start beginning and keep cycling through this
process whenever there’s an actor Chiam but if there are blockers outside the
engagements and the referees will warn them the slow chart is only for the process
have be at a play we’re not showing year if someone engages or is engaged well
how to play because that will earn a penalty with or without warning this is why when we follow the path for
yes blockers at a play there must be a referee warning
otherwise the skaters cannot be penalized for not returning to the
engagements own once warned however there’s a process
for skaters returning to the engagement sound skaters and fraud over behind the Packer
treated just a little differently not just because they have to return to
the engagement zone in the opposite way they left but there’s another step for skaters
were heavy gauge its own the skaters out a play behind the
engagements own they muskie and Derby direction until
they have reached the engagement sound if they do so immediately we move on to
reassess in a status the back at defining agents own again if they do
not their issued a penalty and we return to
assessing the pack in a cage for its own if a skater is ahead of the engage in so
they must return to the front to the gauge and so on but how they’re required to do so is
determined by the direction above the pack if the pack is moving and
Derby direction or counterclockwise skaters ahead at the
gage concern it’s slow to the point to stop being in order to be joining gate to its own
if the package stopped or moving clockwise that skaters ahead
at the gate and so on must actively skate clockwise teary turned eighty engagements on as the
skaters behind the engagement zone there is the return immediately test and
the possibility of a penalty if returning are attempting to return did not happen immediately now that we
know how to define the pack being gay gym its own and what the
blockers are required to do to keep the pack and stay in the engagements own let’s
look at some snapshots common packed arrangements will practice
with the virtual whiteboard in these scenarios continually ask what if questions for love the scenarios as soon as they
come up on the screen ask yourself where’s the pack which
blockers are in play but not in the pack widget blockers are out of play or not on the track which
jammers her in the engagement so this one should be easy where’s the back all the black Richard Pryor pack none at the bikers are outsider hack
none at the is blockers are out of play or not on the track the blue jammer is in the engagements
own behind the pack and the yellow jammer is just ahead at
the hatred so note that even though the blue jammers
within 10 feet above the rear mosbacher they’re not part of the pack in good and your the pack is comprised of these to blue and three yellow blockers that also means that the engagement so
about here to pits are still in play in the forward part at the engagement
soon this blue blocker is out of balance so
they’re not on the track or in play blue jammers still behind the pack in
the engagements own and the yellow jammer is dead the gauge
been sellin ok and we’re getting a little check HERE NOW
but if they get this one the pack is comprised of the blue pit and this one yellow blocker the blue
jammer cannot be paid at the PAC so that leaves the remaining blue
blocker more than 10 feet behind the next closest blocker the
other yellow blocker is more than 10 feet ahead the next
closest blocker here’s the engagement cell this yellow blocker is in play ahead of
the pack and this blue-black is in play behind
the pack all love the pluckers in the penalty box are not on the track again are blue
jammers in the engagement soon and the other chamber is not in ok and here’s a pretty common scenario
especially after scrum stirred for yellow takes the back wall and blue
takes the front if the other jammers able to push the
blue blockers faster the Blue Jay ever could push the
yellow blockers the blocker start to pull apart terms
pack but clustered terms team there is no pac because there’s more
than 10 feet between the two closest opposing skaters none other if there’s no pac there’s no engagements
own and no blockers can be in play all of them are out of play well there is no engagement so here the jammers are considered to have
completed their past when they passed foremost block ok and second verse same as the first the
situation often arises as blockers in the last scenario work to reform the pack or play some
offense blocking for their own jammer we still no pic love the blockers are
within 10 feet at least one opponent we have to equal groups the skaters from
both teams and the two groups are more than 10 feet
apart no blockers are in play because there is
no pac internal engagements own I love the
blockers are out of play again there is no engagements own a
jammer who passes the former’s blocker in this scenario will have completed
their pets a common solution for creating a pack
here as for one of the solitary blockers for
example the single blue blocker among the yellow
blockers to intentionally take any this can work
well if the two packs pretty far apart to begin with but in this scenario the the yellow blockers would still be
eligible to engage because the pack is now here being gay German soon is now here and if
they’re packed moves forward quickly in order to stay in front the blue
chambre the l.a blockers just up to skate forward to but if those
blockers become out of play to when the blue blocker
takes a knee perhaps the blue jammer could get a bit
at the break beating the outer plate blockers to engage are sprinting forward well they adjust
to an out of play warning ok I’m I’ll this is a great still for considering
somewhat if scenarios the pack is clustered here with these three blue and one yellow
blocker and hears about where the engagement sonya’s that means these two yellow blockers are in play
and eligible to engage the blue jammer both this outta bounds blue blocker and
this yellow it are at a play think about this what a
bit though assuming the out of bounds blue blocker was not out by the yellow pivot where
most the blue blocker come in to track cecile that is out of play the blue
blocker may come in behind the other yellow blockers where’s the pack
if the blue blocker returns the track as soon as legally
possible behind the last in play yellow blocker there is no pac is this to the advantage of the blue
blocker probably not or a meeting at a balance blues jammer is only confronted by two opponents one
of which is nearly out of play well yale is jammers confronted by three
opponents and one offensive blocker making an opec at this point would
likely release the yellow jammer well the other blockers and give it to
the rear would Greece up behind the blue wall to be clear reform the pack and make passing that much harder on the
Blue Chair has the blue-black a required to return to play no not in this scenario not unless the
blue blockers returned to play would make a pack when there was none me the blue blocker returned to play
even if it would destroy the pack yes that’s considered normal gameplay the yellow jammer is in the engagement
soon and the blue jammer is behind in ok and here’s another fairly common scenario yellow is on a power jam and the
blockers playing a passive of its this means they
managed to slow the back down to stopping are nearly stout well the blue blockers
have to hold the yellow jammer without breaking the pack all of the blockers on the tracker in
the pack nerd love the blockers are in play but
not pack there is one blue blocker in the penalty
box but they appear to be standing the yellow jammers in the engagement
soon the blue jammers in the penalty box maybe you saw this coming when I put the
slide maybe you didn’t we would call what
yellow is doing reaching back why would you want to
bridge back besides making the pack proximity very weak having only one blogger within
10 feet up the opponents they’re also making the returning
blocker have ski clockwise under the penalty box or be
faced with a nearly full lap around to return to the track much with this
bridge can deal with the blue-black a returns for the box in the next scenario in ok and so here’s a brilliant play by the yellow
blockers to in our last scenario had bridged back to
force the blue blocker returning from the penalty box to come in behind the rear most in play
blocker as soon as the blue blocker and to the track the yellow blockers including the pit
skated clockwise to form a tight pack around that blue blocker making them
that go and yes this is legal at no time the game ever stop having a pack so no one is in
trouble for destroying the pack but the blue blockers in front earn
danger and we’ll get to that in a moment the pack is now in the back with this tightly clustered group for
yellow blockers and one blue blocker astronomy gauge min soon all the blockers that are in play are
also part of pack that group of three blockers in Fred the
yellow jammer are all out of play and there’s so far
play that I know where yellow jammer should be able to get past any who remain in front even while one
her respect bridge there are no jammers in the engagement
soon when the yellow blockers skated back in
reform the pack significantly farther back with their bridge they believed the engagement soon
behind the yellow jammer if we assume that the owner Jerry didn’t
pass the blue blocker in this press before the blue-black returned from the
box that this jammers completed a scoring pass without actually passing anyone so how
many points does the yellow jammer get as pets the answers 5 first because overall seven-point 2.5
the elegy for scores a point for every blocker who has advanced heavy gauge in
seven and not yet returned once the jammers
scores on those three immediately earn one point for the
jammer in the penalty box year and 1.2 the blue blocker who
returned from the penalty box behind the jammer however if the jam it
in that like this the blue blockers upright having never
left the engagement selling and the blue blocker and their per year
the pack returned to the check behind the alleged amor highly allergic every never actually
passes any have their opposing blockers in the
front to the gauge been sown that she ever get zero points this is really a pointer for scoring strategies
it’s important to highlight the power Kenyan play were out of play for those
three forward blue blockers out of play to give up five points in play they keep the jammers scoreless ok and here’s another fairly common pack
scenario that balls breaching the pack includes the six
blockers including and between the blue pill in
the front and their rear most yellow blocker the
pivot the blue blocker in the pet are bridging
forward to keep those front two blockers and play all the yellow blockers are bridging
backward their purpose for purging backward is twofold first they’re making the Packers week is
possible in the middle so the your most blue blocker kiko any
further forward without breaking all thing second their bridging back so the blue
jammer has to skate farther coming out the box look at what
their engagements owners before we move onto who is in play let’s look at hell disengagement zone
affects the Chambre returning for the penalty box they can exit the penalty box clockwise and come in behind get your most killer
blocker packed definition in this picture very
good has to be behind in relation to that inside line so the closest they can
enters about here but that rear most blacker can’t leave
the packets key their bed in which case there jam right
now as to skate to hear lockers to play tricks such as look like
they’re in a position on the track at the moment before the opponent
re-enters the track your stick their heads back or jump or skate back scenario where it
would be easy to forget that in the previous image regular black
was allowed to go farther back one way to avoid having to play
cat-and-mouse with the rear black early at least add to the track skate
counterclockwise but to do that you must enter in front the gauge its own to good enough to just
editor in front of the foremost blockers these two front blockers that rear most
yellow blocker but in our original scenario the rear
most yellow blocker was in the heck there are no outer play or not on the track blockers PL jammers and engagements on the Blu Jarecki to return in the
engagement soon behind the rear mostly low blocker or
ahead of the engagement so it figured out what to pack is in isn’t
we’ve learned how to use the pack defining gate its own we’ve looked at a few scenarios
to evaluate these rules in the cut exit strategy let’s take a moment to pack up all of
these parts pull together a good standing have the core the game a flat track
Derby in order by the gauge concern we have tied the
pack Allegis Group blockers with peppers for both teams up
rate within 10 feet of each other the engagement soon extends from twenty
feet behind the rear most back skater to 20 feet for the foremost back skater
between the inside and outside check boundaries all blockers who are up rate and in the
engagement cell are in play this is critical because
nearly everything in Derby just happen in the gate concern we
needed because in the engagement soon blockers can
block other blockers and chambers jammers can block blockers blockers can assist blockers jammers can assist
blockers the jammer helmet cover may be best the next chamber past begins on exiting
blockers remain in or immediately return to it Packers
outsider the sonar scored a 100 LB actually passed in some instances member the pack is constantly changing
in this video I had given you some steps shut scenarios there are plenty of exercises you can
give yourself to improve your bilby to observe packs and their effect
gameplay I usually recommend to my new skaters to
begin with photos to get voters ask yourself but
blockers are in the back which blockers are in play where is the
pack track can I tell who is lead jammer this picture we can see that ollie
blockers on the track neither team has fielded a pit we can’t
tell you who is lead the week do know that we can see more
than happy check can we can see it she ever worry GM
referee jammers are either not on the check or based on the sideline three-way
clockers to love the blue blockers jammers just
coming up corner for from the return to blockers this looks a lot like scenario che so
it’s probably whites jammer on a power trip for this picture we can see a pack it’s made above all
for blue blockers and to wait blockers there’s one white blocker back at the
apex between turns 3&4 bridging we don’t know where the fourth wat
blocker is or the blue chipper the week do you know where the white
jammers she may be a little hard to see but we know that’s the way Chamara on the inside
watching because he’s looking at the Skeeter
behind the blue pit blocker in hand he’s got away wrap on his left wrist
indicating he’s Jan matching for what we also know
she isn’t lead because he isn’t pointing at her ask
yourself why is the weight blocker bridging back
ask yourself if you think the blue jammers all the checker in the box as the other way blocker in the box
could she possibly be in play just off to the right the photo watch
video too try and see what actions make a pact
break observe what actions restore it back
while still achieving team goals and what actions are countered teen
girls use wake boards to draw some areas and discuss them with the team me 10 live derby event with your team the sites be lotta fun talking about what’s going on with other
people could really up your individual game work could be key to breaking packs
practice much bout video and see how you did
compared to practice but most herbal just plea Derby later
people people coach where you packs are and when they aren’t practice like you
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26 thoughts on “Roller Derby Pack, Proximity, and Position

  • March 1, 2015 at 7:47 am
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    So awesome, great work here!

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  • March 1, 2015 at 7:53 am
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    @6:28 I said "penalty", woo hoo!

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  • March 1, 2015 at 4:19 pm
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    Thank you so much for this!!!!  Understanding the engagement zone and pack has been such a challenge for me, and I absolutely get it now!   

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  • March 2, 2015 at 8:21 pm
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    Awesome resource thank you!  However in a way it's turning me off Derby 🙁  I feel a little like how is a human supposed to asses all of this information while hitting and getting hit. 

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  • March 3, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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    First of all, awesome video!  I have advised our entire league to review it to learn the pack principles presented.  
    I want to ask a scoring question as it relates to scenario "I" (as illustrated at 25:32 of the video).  I want to modify one aspect of the situation though and say the Blue blocker is not in a penalty, but had been bumped off the track by Team Yellow, before the Yellow jammer passed her at the hips ie. she was out of bounds from a check before the Yellow Jammer arrived.  If it ended as the freeze frame at 25:32 where all blockers are in the engagement zone, does that change the scoring in any way?  You indicated the score would be 0 for that and I agree, but some people are claiming that going past the OOB Blue Blocker counts as a point BEFORE scoring any points from the 3 skaters in advance of the zone.  Hope that makes sense.  Thanks in advance.

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  • March 3, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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    So to put a different angle on the pack/score scenarios from 23:15–26:00, what if the yellow jammer was well behind the pack when the jam ended and there were one or more blue blockers OOP in front of the pack? Would you say that the OOP points earned also earn any NOTT points? I'm inclined to say no and to question the 5-point pass you described in the video segment.

    Looking at the section on earning NOTT points ( 7.2.1.1 – 7.2.1.1.5), it is a subsection of and directly below 7.2.1, which explains the points scored specifically by passing opponents on the track. That and the use of the word "also" in 7.2.4.1, well below both of the other sections, says to me that these are a separate tally from the points described above that entry.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 6:20 pm
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    In reaction to your 5 point scoring pass explanation around 24:00,
    That scoring pass would be a 3 point scoring pass. In order to earn the NOTT points for that opposing blocker and jammer, there has to be scored upon an opposing blocker. Which is not the case in this specific scenario 🙂

    *Exception*
    Scenario:
    Black jammer is on a scoring pass but has not scored any points yet. Black jammer gets send to the box. When black jammer is serving time, two white blockers get send to the box as well.
    Black jammer is done serving their penalty and reenters the track legally, jam ends. 2 points.

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  • June 4, 2015 at 1:43 pm
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    Thanks for the closed captions! Much appreciated by Deaf/HOH skaters.  

    It looks like the captions weren't edited around minute 15 (and perhaps onward? I don't have time to keep watching right now)

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  • August 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm
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    At 30:42, potentially both teams fielded a pivot and performed star passes.

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  • September 4, 2015 at 5:45 am
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    A great video. Is going to save me a lot of time with new skaters when they move up into the relevant levels.

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  • September 18, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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    You have no idea how helpful this is. I've needed some simple yet in depth explanation on pack. Really good video. I'm currently about to pass the link onto my other newbie team mates xx

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  • February 28, 2016 at 3:54 pm
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    WOW, thank you soooo much for putting this together.

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  • April 27, 2016 at 6:46 pm
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    I'm a new ref in a new league. I am being told by experienced skaters that coasting back to intentionally create a "no pack" is legal game strategy. From what I've read in the rules and online it doesn't seem legal and is cause for "destroying the pack" penalty. Is this a new rule change?

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  • June 30, 2016 at 4:17 am
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    This is good. Were there any 2016 rule changes that would impact the info in this video?

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  • August 30, 2016 at 3:21 am
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    This is genius.  My head hurts.  Scoring 5 points without passing a skater should be a trivia question

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  • October 12, 2016 at 2:09 am
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    Thank you,

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  • February 10, 2017 at 6:10 pm
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    Thanks for taking the time of doing this and uploading.

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  • February 17, 2017 at 10:34 pm
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    Love this … thank you 😀 Shared with my Facebook Roller Derby group.

    Roller Derby Heroines
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/rollerderbyheroinesxo/

    "As soon as you laced up those skates, you became someones heroine" Coach Kiki.

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  • May 23, 2017 at 3:22 pm
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    So with the 2017 rules regarding scenario I (24:00), I'm looking at it that the opponents weren't lapped (passed twice in a row), so then no points should be awarded if the jam ends with the 3 blockers outside of the engagement zone, right?  It looks like they earn a pass, but since a lap (passing twice) never occurred, then no points would be awarded.  Or are we saying that the first trip was complete, and this is the scoring trip?3.1. Earning Points – Jammers score one point every time they lap an opponent. A Jammer laps an opponent if they pass that opponent TWICE IN A ROW (without that opponent having passed that Jammer), but score a point only if the lapping pass is earned (see 2.5).

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  • July 3, 2017 at 11:20 pm
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    So in scenario I, is the blue blocker required to re-enter the track once released from the penalty box?

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  • July 17, 2017 at 1:11 pm
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    4 players get passed..There are 5 puppies………….

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  • October 9, 2017 at 3:51 pm
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    Rod Stewart

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  • September 11, 2018 at 6:10 pm
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    Great video! There are some changes from when it was made to the 2017 ruleset:

    10:44 2017: Any clockwise motion that destroys the pack is illegal. (unless the pack is moving clockwise)

    12:15 Out of play engagement only receives an penalty if there is impact.

    12:55 The actual obligation (stopping vs skating clockwise) of skaters out of play in front is not clear in the 2017 rules. You should probably officiate it according to the flowchart, since that's probably still the consensus, but it's no longer explicit.

    20:45 2017: It is now illegal to deliberately remain out of bounds, although it does require a warning to be penalized.

    23:23 2017: Timing is now much more critical than in 2015. If a "no pack" occurs at any point during this procedure, there is now an automatic destruction for the CW skating skaters, even if the motion is gradual.

    28:15 2017: The exact rules around reentry from the box in front are less explicit, but the consensus for jammers still matches what you are saying here, at least for jammers. (The rules for blockers reentering in front are even less clear.)

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  • March 8, 2019 at 4:51 pm
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    Thank you so much! I'm a new skater trying to learn the rules and gameplay quickly (and keep destroying the pack during scrimmages…), and seeing visuals of the different scenarios is EXTREMELY helpful!

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  • July 16, 2019 at 3:51 pm
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    We make all new skaters watch this (or at least we tell them to!) great reference thanks so much

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  • October 5, 2019 at 5:13 pm
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    I have been playing roller derby for over a year, I have my second ever roller derby game today yet I’m watching this.

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