Queen Lion is looking to make the elections
in her animal kingdom more fair. Currently she divides her citizens into ranges each
of which selects one representative to go to the jungle council which makes laws for
the kingdom. But her citizens are unhappy, and it’s easy
to see why: the council is full of monkeys. Of course some of her citizens are monkeys,
but not all of them. This council doesn’t fairly represent her kingdom. Queen lion visits one of the ranges to find
out what’s wrong and how to fix it. In this range there five monkeys, four tigers,
three owls, two lynx and one buffalo. One of each runs for representative and all citizens
vote for their own species. The election rule is that the candidate with
the most votes wins, which is the monkey. But it’s a pretty unsatisfying result considering
that 2/3rds of citizens in this range *aren’t* monkeys and wouldn’t vote for monkeys. This is the same across all the ranges of
the kingdom, the monkeys have more votes than anybody else, so they win all the elections,
even though they are a minority of the total population. Closer inspection reveals that
the independent advisors hired to draw the range boundaries in the first place weren’t
as independent as they first appeared. The result is unhappy citizens who don’t trust
the jungle council to make the fairest laws for all, quite rightly. Now Queen lion wants to maximize the number
of citizens happy with the election results. One way to do that is to abolish the ranges
and use a proportional system… …But her citizens *want* local representatives. So Queen lion needs a system that both make
her citizens happier by having a more representative council while keeping local elections in place. After doing a little research she finds out
how: Single Transferable Vote. The big change with STV is that ranges send
more than one representative, which may seem weird, but queen lion decides to test it out:
she takes three ranges which used to each send one representative and combines them
into one bigger range that will send three. On election day citizens go to the polls and
the results in this new range are just the same as they were in the old ranges: 34% for
Monkey, 33% for Owl and 33% for Lynx. But this isn’t most votes wins: with STV to
figure out the winners take the total votes and divide by the number of representatives
needed, in this case 3 which gives 33% as the amount a candidates needs to win. So *all three* candidates go to the council
— which accurately represents the citizens in the range. Whereas under the old system each range would
have sent a monkey. Leaving 2/3rd of the citizens without representation. A bigger range with
more representatives allows the range to be more proportional. This test turned out well, but it was also
as simple as could be — now Queen Lion wants to see what happens in a race where not everyone
is a winner. The next big range she tests has five candidates
running for office: Gorilla, Tasier, Monkey, Tiger, and Lynx, three of which can be representatives. Election day comes and goes, and here are
the results of citizens first choices: Tasier gets 5%
Gorilla gets 28% Monkey gets 33%
Tiger gets 21% Lynx gets 13% As before, a candidate needs 33% to win. Monkey
has that as so is immediately selected as one of the three representatives. But no one else reached the winning 33% so
how are the other two representatives selected? Step one: get rid of the biggest loser. Sorry
tasier — you really had no chance at all. Now, when the citizens voted, they could have
just put an X next to the candidate they liked most but with STV they can also rank their
favorite candidates. This is important because it shows how the election would have turned
out if one of the candidates hadn’t run. Tiny and Worried Tasiers would have voted
for the big calm gorilla without tasier in the race. So if their candidate can’t win,
they want their votes to go to Gorilla instead. This pushes gorilla up to 33% and he become
the next representative. Ranking allows citizens to support their favorite
candidate without worry — there’s no point in strategizing about how everyone else is
going to vote. The system works to maximize voter happiness with the result. Back to the range: there’s still one representative
to select, so the next biggest loser is Lynx. His voters don’t like simians, but they do
think tiger’s interests are similar to theirs and so if Lynx can’t win they want him to
have their votes. Tiger gets reaches 33% and becomes the third and final representative. The election result looks pretty good especially
considering citizens first *and* second choices. Now more citizens have a local representative
they can feel comfortable approaching, whereas using the old system, everybody gets a monkey. Lastly queen lion wants know what happens
in a range with just two political parties. Under the most-votes-wins systems, multiple
candidates from the same party would be a disaster: they’d split their voters and hand
the win to their opposition. Queen lion makes one last test range with
2/3rd tigers and 1/3 gorillas that as before, needs three representatives. Because with STV citizens rank their candidates
there can be more than one candidate running at the same time without any problems. The tigers run two candidates as do the gorillas. White tiger becomes the first representative,
but what happens next? While tiger seems to be the biggest loser, it’s also obvious that
he would have gotten way more votes if white tiger wasn’t in the race. If a candidate has
more votes than they need, like white tiger does, the first step is to give the extra
votes to their second choice. This gets tiger to 33% and he becomes the next representative. If that seems strange, there are two things
to consider: 1) If instead the extra votes were ignored,
and tiger eliminated then the gorillas would get the remaining two wins, which would obviously
not be represent the range. 2) Ignoring these ‘extra’ votes is punishing
citizens who backed the popular candidate, which makes voters start thinking about how
everyone else will vote, rather than what they really want. If a candidate gets extra
votes in the first place it also means that those who voted for him are a big section
of the population and thus fairly should get more representation. Right: after the extra votes go to tiger,
the election finishes as before: Silverback came in last, is eliminated and his voters’
second choice is the younger candidate so gorilla gets in. And the results are fair. Queen Lion has now seen STV work. Whether
a range has one party or lots the process is still the same: 1. Citizens rank their favorite candidates.
2. Any candidate above the threshold wins immediately,
3. ‘Extra’ votes go to their next choice. 4. If no winner, last place is eliminated,
and the votes to go their next choice. 5. Repeat until all the winners are found. This whole this process is designed to maximize
the number of citizens who are happy with the result. This process gives STV has many advantages
over the old, most-votes-wins system: 1. Citizens can honestly vote for their favorite
candidate without worrying about what everyone else is going to do.
2. It’s more proportional. So monkeying with the borders matters less.
3. Almost all citizens will have a local representative they actually voted for. In the end Queen lion decides to switch the
council’s elections to Single Transferable Vote to make a better jungle council for all.

Politics in the Animal Kingdom: Single Transferable Vote

100 thoughts on “Politics in the Animal Kingdom: Single Transferable Vote

  • June 20, 2019 at 2:13 am
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    But what would happen if some of the White Tiger voters chose Tiger as their second choice, and some chose Gorilla as their second choice? Who would decide who gets the extra votes?

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  • June 21, 2019 at 1:07 pm
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    Anyone up for revolution against the monkeys?

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  • June 22, 2019 at 6:36 pm
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    you always think that americas constitution is sooo bad and the uks is so good but lets see who succeeded??

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  • June 24, 2019 at 9:01 pm
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    b a n a n a s

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  • June 25, 2019 at 10:34 am
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    But why is a king holding elections?

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  • June 25, 2019 at 5:11 pm
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    5:27

    How do you decide which votes to transfer and which ones to just keep to white lion? perhaps the 33% of White Tiger voters BEFORE the minimum line wanted White Gorilla.

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  • June 25, 2019 at 10:09 pm
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    Animal Farm 2.0

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  • June 26, 2019 at 11:54 am
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    How progressive.

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  • June 27, 2019 at 11:25 am
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    the next day animals overthrow queen lion for changing their representatives too often.

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  • June 30, 2019 at 10:46 pm
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    The problem is with putting this into practice, as not all people would vote for the same second place candidate.
    Imagine this:
    White tiger gets 66%
    Tiger gets 1%
    Lynx gets 1%
    Gorilla gets 32%
    33% of White tiger's voters put tiger as their second choice
    33% of White tiger's voters put lynx as their second choice
    Who gets counted as "extra".
    If tiger voters get counted as extra they get moved over and tiger wins the second seat.
    If lynx voters get counted as extra they get moved over and lynx wins the second seat.
    This is a response to all those in the comments saying that this is the perfect voting system and that there are no downsides. All voting systems are flawed in some way. They ALL have problems.
    Edit: I have now seen solutions such as redistribution of all secondary votes as a percentage however this may result in complicated stuff depending on the percentages. To be honest, I can't be bothered with more analysis of a voting system. This is a good voting system (much better than most) but always looking further into things is what I do. Anyway imma stop typing now.

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  • July 1, 2019 at 2:20 am
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    wait but 33 x 3 = 99

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  • July 1, 2019 at 3:41 pm
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    Send this to the government.
    I have a feeling that this us not how the U.S. does things

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  • July 1, 2019 at 5:18 pm
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    Wow, you just assume that everyone is racist.

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  • July 2, 2019 at 1:09 pm
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    The way it works in Finland is that there are 13 ranges where the people vote for a candidate who is part of a party. The amount of candidates chosen from each party is proportional to the amount of votes they got and then the candidates in the party are chosen based on how many individual votes they got.

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  • July 2, 2019 at 6:36 pm
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    WOT happened to tuatara?? i am going to lodge an appeal at the jungle supreme court :V

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  • July 3, 2019 at 4:18 am
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    How does one choose which of the extra votes for White Roger counts towards the next rounds of voting? I'm unclear on that point

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  • July 3, 2019 at 10:12 pm
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    just make it as in germany, half via proportional and half lokal

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  • July 7, 2019 at 6:12 pm
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    Question: how do you chose which votes get transferred with a popular candidate?

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  • July 7, 2019 at 8:23 pm
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    I would vote for Tasier.

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  • July 10, 2019 at 10:17 am
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    How does the system decide which votes get moved to the second choice? While this simplistic analogy assumes similar parties/species are in agreement, that's not always the case in the real world.

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  • July 13, 2019 at 4:06 am
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    Tiger is better than white tiger because you can see his eyes and the eyes just complete the irresistible seductive look on his face

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  • July 13, 2019 at 7:10 am
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    white tigers extra votes should have been turned into their seconds votes instead because purple tiger could have been corrupt

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  • July 13, 2019 at 10:19 am
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    I think the monkeys. It looks the smartest the Americans voted for a mokey too

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  • July 13, 2019 at 3:36 pm
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    White Tiger 2020

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  • July 14, 2019 at 1:38 am
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    4:53 no, that's sal

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  • July 14, 2019 at 1:40 am
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    But how would you decide who gets to transfer their votes to the second choice? Maybe the white tiger party has split second votes, is it random? Is it chosen like gerrymandering?

    Maybe it could be a first come first serve system

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  • July 15, 2019 at 5:03 pm
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    How would this look in the US?
    Each state is one district?

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  • July 16, 2019 at 5:50 pm
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    The USA will never have this. Why? Because our democracy is a lie.

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  • July 16, 2019 at 11:12 pm
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    I have a problem with this. If a candidate gets 67% of the vote, how do you randomly choose which of the votes are considered extra? Cause the votes considered extra go to their second candidate which could be different for voters

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  • July 17, 2019 at 10:09 am
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    But if you had to choose

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  • July 17, 2019 at 6:53 pm
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    How do you determine which are the extra votes for white tiger? What if all the selected extra votes voted for green gorilla but the remaining 33% of white tiger voters picked purple tiger? What do you do if the situation was flipped?

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  • July 18, 2019 at 4:47 am
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    Trump 2020

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  • July 18, 2019 at 7:34 am
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    Gpg gray wanted to watch jungle book

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  • July 19, 2019 at 2:31 pm
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    All the video is true, except for the last part where the government decides to switch to STV

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  • July 19, 2019 at 4:47 pm
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    I like the idea, and its very cool, but I am very curious about what happens when a canidate has surplus votes. How do you decide which votes use their 2nd choice vote, vs their 1st choice? Assuming not all of their 2nd picks were unanimous, do you take a ratio and round up and down 1 or 2 votes? Do you take a random sample?

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  • July 19, 2019 at 11:39 pm
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    And that's how Kentucky with a 11-2 record wins the National Championship

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  • July 20, 2019 at 4:54 am
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    Hi Grey, If you determine the number to beat by dividing 100 by the number of reps needed then how would this work in a situation where only one representative is needed? That would mean that eventually, one candidate would need to get 100% of the votes. Can you explain how this system would work in that situation? thanks.

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  • July 22, 2019 at 2:47 am
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    But in this case there would not be elections because the jungle council is a monarchy and needs a healthy dose of FREEDOM

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  • July 23, 2019 at 3:53 am
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    All Americans: Heyyy that's pretty good.
    Democrats and Republicans:
    Oh this? You'll hate this. Cmon you dont want this. No really you dont want this. Look we arent even going to try and implement it because we just KNOW you dont want it.

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  • July 23, 2019 at 4:32 am
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    This only works in election with multiple seats available though.

    EDIT: Now that I think about it it would work but be kind of irrelevant.

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  • July 23, 2019 at 10:03 am
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    The problem is how do unused votes become distributed.
    Any of the votes could be considered extra.
    So do we just select votes randomly or do we put in a method?

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  • July 24, 2019 at 1:02 am
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    these animals would run this country better than what we’ve got now.

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  • July 24, 2019 at 1:41 pm
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    How does the ranking work in STV? Say, if the three options are zebra, lion, and bear, if 99% of the votes are for zebra and the 2nd place is equally split, who will win? Won't it depend on who voted first? Ex, if all 2nd place lion voters vote first, won't their points only go towards Zebra? So then the party who votes last get bear in because Zebra already won? Will voted be affected by time?

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  • July 24, 2019 at 8:35 pm
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    Good on paper…
    Applied IRL, you get champaign socialism, so…

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  • July 25, 2019 at 6:00 am
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    There's one potential problem im curious about. What if white tiger has 66% of the vote. But 33% of the 2nd choice is for bengal tiger, and 33% of the 2nd choice is for lynx. Where do you take the run off from?

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  • July 25, 2019 at 6:11 am
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    I didn't understand why 33% is the threshold. Can someone explain me?

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  • July 25, 2019 at 8:45 pm
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    Darn Lynx’s are kinda racist

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  • July 25, 2019 at 10:56 pm
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    I would go with the electoral college

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  • July 26, 2019 at 8:26 am
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    I would vote for snake, he looks trustworthy

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  • July 26, 2019 at 7:19 pm
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    Nice way to bring (((diversity))), uh?

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  • July 27, 2019 at 7:19 am
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    Then silverback gets upset and calls to abolish the new system because he doesn’t understand it
    (Looking at you, Hillary)

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  • July 27, 2019 at 7:25 am
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    Instead of the "next vote" thing, we just have party votes. You vote for a candidate but you also vote for a party. First the party votes are counted, determining how many representatives each party gets in a certain area (each area accounting for 17 seats on average). Then the candidate votes are counted to see which candidates get the seats.

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  • July 27, 2019 at 11:38 pm
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    Queen Lion introduces a bill to move the country to a more representative system…

    Monkeys approve a bill to rip her face off & split it 38 ways, instead…

    -Real world

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  • July 28, 2019 at 2:51 am
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    But lions dont live in jungles, they live in the savanna…

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  • July 28, 2019 at 7:55 am
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    this is just a much better version of the alternative vote.

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  • July 28, 2019 at 9:48 am
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    Why a “Queen”, it’s a lion king, so a male.

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  • July 28, 2019 at 3:31 pm
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    I learn so much every time I watch one of your videos

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  • July 28, 2019 at 4:29 pm
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    If a candidate gets more than enough votes, which ballots are considered extra and go towards another candidate? Is it just random?

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  • July 28, 2019 at 8:48 pm
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    Doing a Progressive Tax on (Just) the “Greedy Part” of Wealth & Conservatively Spending (Just it) on Social Programs gets us a “Stable Society” (the “True Creator” of All Wealth!!) AND we do it with “Direct Democracy” where WE Directly Propose, Enact & Enforce “Merit Based Standardized” Laws & “Money” isn’t a factor!! – "Like" this so we all See & Do this!!

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  • July 30, 2019 at 9:36 pm
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    But how is it decided which votes are the ones past the threshold? Just whoever is counted latest? Wouldn't that then make it more beneficial to be later to vote, as those who vote later have a better say?

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  • July 31, 2019 at 12:20 pm
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    Hmm… there must be some meaning behind the Philippine Tarsier being in this video.

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  • August 1, 2019 at 4:13 am
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    But wait…
    How to decide which "second option" from white tigers' overvotes should be chosen to move to the next candidate?
    If white tiger got 66% of votes as 1st choice, and half of them were monkey 2nd and the other half regular tiger 2nd, who should these votes go to after all?

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  • August 1, 2019 at 9:03 am
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    Yeah, but the monkeys still have a majority vote on the counsel. 6:43

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  • August 1, 2019 at 10:15 am
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    This wont change anytime soon, though you are correct in your assessment. Unfortunately most voting systems are not designed to be fair. They are almost always designed to benefit the person/group/party involved in the original vote design. Using USA as example, that system is designed around 3 principles (technically 7-8 principles, but only 3 that matter to this topic). 1: It is designed in such a way to prevent 3rd parties from having a chance. 2: It is designed in such a way that only allows for career politicians.. orrr as I'm about to elaborate on, wealthy individuals 3: It is designed in such a way that the most $$ always wins. (If you disagree with last one, go look at the funding every winning president used during campaign in comparison to their opponent.). Yes, there are limits to what any one party can get… from any one source. But you have a lot to learn if you think that matters… at all. Of course, the USA is not a democracy, so it's not the best example. (To non-americans thinking "WTF", it's officially a democratic republic. Think Roman Empire.)

    In truth, the only country I'm aware of that uses a legit, fair system, is Ireland. Even there it's a bit… dodgy though.

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  • August 1, 2019 at 8:47 pm
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    Except this system assumes the candidate with the lowest initial vote will never get the majority of second votes.

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  • August 2, 2019 at 2:36 am
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    Could the election be influenced by which extra votes are counted?

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  • August 2, 2019 at 7:28 am
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    Stv? Star trek voyager? Or star trek 5?

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  • August 2, 2019 at 1:43 pm
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    I don't understand why you eliminate the person who got the lowest vote. That person could be leading in 2nd place votes by a wide margin.

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  • August 3, 2019 at 4:18 pm
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    But what would happen if their choice wasn’t the second gorilla but that tiger that only got 1 percent? Maybe I’m missing something but it seems like there are ways to not have 3 people get 33 percent if things happen in an odd way. Or like if someone got 100 percent of the vote somehow.

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  • August 3, 2019 at 9:31 pm
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    Elections are just for show, Queen Lion holds all the power.

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  • August 3, 2019 at 9:58 pm
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    So the question I don't see anyone asking, unless I missed it, is what if the first 33% for white tiger had their second choice as gorilla? And the "extra" voters voted for the other tiger how do you determine who would get the "extra" votes? Is it the votes that came in second or the majority of the second place votes from all voters because at least theoretically they could be different?

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  • August 4, 2019 at 4:04 am
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    How would this work for one-winner elections such as US President?

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  • August 4, 2019 at 7:35 am
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    3:53 34%

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  • August 4, 2019 at 8:22 am
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    Wow. For those who don't realize, he is calling for further division between the races. Anyone with an IQ above double digits would see that further dividing people by races is a terrible idea.

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  • August 4, 2019 at 10:26 pm
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    How does this compare to Mixed-Member Proportional in terms of actual representation?

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  • August 5, 2019 at 12:23 pm
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    Finally a voting system that makes sense!!

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  • August 6, 2019 at 5:43 pm
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    If too many people vote for white tiger then how do we know all of the votes would have gone to the other tiger.

    How do you decide which second place votes should be counted and which should not?

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  • August 7, 2019 at 1:12 am
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    In France, the élections are in two rounds, the second one being between the two major winners of the first one ( exept if a candidate gets more than 50% of the votes in the first round )Why a system that simple couldn't work properly on the other side of the channel ?
    PS : vote for roosters !

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  • August 7, 2019 at 2:22 pm
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    Can you do an animal Communist one-party republic? An animal nazi Reich? An animal technocracy?

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  • August 8, 2019 at 3:02 am
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    well, monkeys are the smartest once… who the fuck cares about what buffalo wants ?

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  • August 8, 2019 at 5:40 pm
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    how do you decide which votes are the extra votes because not all voters will have the same second choice. this would give the people who decide which votes count as extra allot of power to swing the election results.

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  • August 9, 2019 at 4:12 am
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    I have a question: How do you determine which extra votes go where?

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  • August 9, 2019 at 2:59 pm
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    Who voted for the jackalope?

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  • August 9, 2019 at 7:38 pm
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    I think Sven would be president

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  • August 10, 2019 at 2:51 am
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    STV seems promising.

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  • August 11, 2019 at 3:32 pm
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    All hail the queen

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  • August 11, 2019 at 8:26 pm
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    At 4:47 how do you decide whose votes are extra, and therefore who's second choice is used? Surely not everyone who voted for White Tiger chose the same candidate as their second choice. I am not saying that STV is not a better system, I am just curious about some of the nuances.

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  • August 11, 2019 at 10:08 pm
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    But… But… This looks like 1st past to post…

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  • August 13, 2019 at 11:42 am
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    How does one decide who's second choice is picked when a candidate gets more votes than the threshold? Take the tiger and gorilla example. Suppose half the White Tiger voters had the silverback as their second choice instead of the other tiger. How do you decide which votes go where?

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  • August 13, 2019 at 4:09 pm
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    Are you sure there's no strategic voting in STV? I'm pretty sure the outcome often depends on the order in which minor parties got eliminated.

    Suppose the Tarsier party is everyone's second choice, except for the 5% who rank it first. It gets eliminated before any other party, so we never find this out.

    But now Serval, Ocelot, and Jaguar join the race. Serval and Ocelot each pull 5% from Lynx. You might expect the remaining Lynx voters to like the new small felids better than Tarsier, but I'm making up the example, so they dislike Johnny-come-lately politicians. They stick with Tarsier as their second choice. The erstwhile Lynx voters who switched to Ocelot and Serval still prefer Lynx over Tarsier. That hasn't changed. But Lynx just got eliminated, and they still prefer Tarsier over the big animals. So their votes go to Tarsier, who then has 18%. Jaguar, meanwhile, pulled 14% from Tiger, whose remaining 7% also dislike parvenu candidates. Tiger is eliminated next, and the remaining Tiger voters follow the Lynx voters over to Tarsier's column of the tally sheet. With no Tiger party to fall back on, the Jaguar voters follow suit. That puts Tarsier over the threshold. We have a new winner. If the Jaguar/Tiger voters had just voted strategically, ranking Tiger ahead of Jaguar, they could have had Tiger elected instead of Tarsier.

    Any mistakes, or have I shown that STV can still have an incentive for strategic voting?

    That's a modification of the first, example where the top winner was exactly at the threshold. I'm pretty sure the transfer of votes can also create an incentive for strategic voting. Suppose the candidates are Anaconda, Bat, Coyote, and Dove. In a winner-take-all district, Bat is the runaway favorite, with 75% of the vote. In an STV district, though, we have to look at the second-choice preferences of the Bat voters. It turns out that 51% want to elect a mammal, and secondarily want a candidate who can fly. Meanwhile the other 24% really wanted a dragon, but they prioritize having a flying representative over having a serpent. If they rank Bat first (while the other voters continue to mark their ballots according to their true preferences), the excess votes will mostly go to Coyote. Instead, the 24% who wanted a dragon can strategically vote for Anaconda as their top choice, and have their second representative at least be a large serpent, albeit a flightless one.

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  • August 14, 2019 at 12:41 am
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    This will never happen. Makes way too much sense.

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  • August 17, 2019 at 3:59 am
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    The scary thing is, nobody's vote matters and voting doesn't change anything. But still interesting video 😂

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  • August 17, 2019 at 5:16 am
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    Why have a good system when you can have Merica?

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  • August 17, 2019 at 3:12 pm
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    W O T

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  • August 18, 2019 at 11:59 pm
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    Cool!

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  • August 22, 2019 at 8:31 pm
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    So at 5:42 how is it determined which votes carry over into their second choice?
    Say half of the people who voted for white tiger had purple tiger as their second choice, and the other half of the white tiger voters had green ape as their second choice. It would matter which votes get carried over into their second choice, so how is it determined which votes carry over?

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  • August 24, 2019 at 1:20 am
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    Why not have a separate election for each species so one representative from each species

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  • August 24, 2019 at 4:57 am
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    The issue with transferring the extra white tiger votes is that you're counting votes twice. And if each area is supposed to pick three representatives, then doesn't it make sense to have three elections? This system makes no sense under the conditions provided.

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  • August 24, 2019 at 10:21 am
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    In the example where the white tiger wins extra votes what would determine who’s votes are extra.

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