– Welcome back to the Letters. I’m your host Jeff Grosso and today we have a surprise guest, Mr. Anthony Van Engelen, known to his friends and fans as AVE, thank you for being on the show. – Thanks for having me. (Static and beeping) ♪ Now that we’re old and ugly ♪ ♪ We’re middle-aged and hurting ♪ ♪ Loveletters with Jeff Grosso ♪ ♪ Will remind you of the solid days ♪ ♪ The best of days ♪ – So we just wanted to have you come sit down with us. And talk about all things skateboarding. – Right on. (Rock music) – [Jeff] Well let’s kind
of start at the beginning. What was the first thing that kind of made you fall in love with it? – [Anthony] First thing that
made me fall in love with it. I grew up in southern California, so I feel like everybody
kind of had a skateboard. I think it was my ninth birthday I wanted a skateboard just out of the blue and my stepdad was like, what do you want? I’m like I want a skateboard, like a pro skateboard. So he bought Vision Lee Ralph with red and blue trackers
and black bullets. (rock music) That was the beginning. And then renting fuckin’ Savannah Slamma and Ohio Skateout at the video store was my first skate videos. (rock music) All I’d known is Bill Danforth riding off the side of the flap skating to Black Flag. That was when I was like, this is sick. I knew I was lookin’ for something, and I found it there. So that was the beginning. – That’s rad. – Yeah. – Everybody’s got there reasons. – Yeah. – [Jeff] You were stoked on
Bill Danforth or whatever. Who were some of the earlier
guys that you got hyped on? – I mean I was just
seeing whatever kind of, I mean it was such a different time then with VHS and stuff. But I remember propaganda came out and there was Skate TV and shit. You know like Frankie
Hill and all that shit was like some of my early exposure to maybe what was currently going on. Skate TV was crazy. We’re watching skating on TV. And these are the dudes in
the video and they’re on TV? This is crazy. They’re famous. – [Jeff] Which is
basically like an extension of watching propaganda. Because it was all… – [Anthony] It was pretty powerful. It was Stacy doing it right? – [Jeff] It was Stacy doing it with Gerry Hurtado. Rest in peace. – I’m Skatemaster Tate, living large, launching lips off the
lunge into 5-0 grind to the mind 540 mid twists
that you wouldn’t believe to grapefruit reverse. – I was again banned from the show. – What’s your favorite
trick for full riding? – My favorite trick
for full riding I guess would have to be any type of grind. Maybe even a board slide. I love to do grinds though because you get that loud (growls). – My first sponsor was Volcom. Went in Channel One kind of after that. Those were my first sponsors. – Yeah Marty Jimenez’s company. Jinx fuckin’ ruled, dude. Sweetest guy in the world. When he starts I’m flaming out, so I was already at the bar going fuck it it’s over. – I don’t know what you’re on. You’re outta here. – I’m outta here anyway. – I’ve had enough. Get outta here. (glass breaks) – And then I feel like I
didn’t even really discover Gonz til later just ’cause
he didn’t get much stuff. And then what, Plan B was like ’92, the Questionable video. Which was such a fuckin’, another complete opposite
of what was goin’ on 12 months before. – [Jeff] It completely changed, like night to day in
less than three years. – Yeah it was crazy. I didn’t even know what
the fuck I was lookin’ at. Like really. – [Jeff] Yeah you were just hyped. – [Anthony] Yeah it took me years, going back to that video, realizing fucking how gnarly that was. – So once you started gettin’ into it and started getting better and fuckin’ cruisin’ around
with your buddies and stuff and figuring out how it worked, who were some of the early dudes that you were super fuckin’ hyped on? Dudes, brands, whatever. – I mean I think of it
was World Industries. It was kind of that era of the world was so influential and
all those dudes were, it was kind of the shit. If you were a young street skater, then Love Child came out and just everybody in
those fuckin’ videos. And they were having such
little kids on the team too, so I feel like it was kind of relatable to where I was at. You got like 13 year old, 14 year old pros and shit it was crazy. Expensive Fujimoto and I really liked Jed
Walters a lot in that video. I feel like that was the
only thing I ever saw him in. And then just going on from there, it was just everything
that kind of came out through there. New World Order, then the Tim and Henry video, and Guy Mariano. That was kind of my shit growing up. Then later Henry Sanchez and Guy are kind of some of my biggest influences as far as street skating goes. – Henry Sanchez hates my guts. – Oh yeah? I think he hates a lot of peoples’ guts. – Love ya, Henry. (funky music) And I thought he was
fuckin’ bad ass myself. – As I got older, the whole thing was here. It was in L.A. I’m growing up in Orange County, I just felt like I just need to get there. I want to be there. And it was all those dudes. Guy, Gabe. – [Jeff] Apollo. – [Anthony] Apollo Diaz. And I feel like there wasn’t a lot of Gabe or I probably missed some stuff, kind of the Apollo stuff. I just saw but I just
didn’t understand it then. But by the time that first
chocolate video came out, and his part was incredible in there, I remember trippin’ on
it because I felt like it was the first real
showing of his skating. (funky music) – Nine four and what. (laughs) – [Man’s Voice] What’s this era? – This is probably what ’92? – [Man’s Voice] What happened here? This is something kids got to know about. – [Anthony] This sucked. – That’s a vert wheel right there. – Oh yeah now this is… (laughter) This is definitely Colin
McKay’s vert wheel. – [Jeff] Totally. – [Anthony] This sucked man especially not being sponsored then. Just buying a brand new
fuckin’ set of wheels and then just literally flat
spotting the fuck out of ’em where you almost see your
bearing through it in 10 minutes was just hell. – [Jeff] Hindsight being 20/20 it seems like it kinda served the purpose. The trick explosion from ’88 to ’92, the way skateboarding
changed overnight like that, and how much stuff got invented, was the most prolific
time in skateboarding. That time span was fucking major and it seems like the
little wheels kinda helped. – [Anthony] For sure. – [Jeff] Kept everybody slow. – [Anthony] The boards were light. – [Jeff] Yeah triple flips. – [Anthony] It served a purpose but it fuckin’ sucked
to have to deal with it. – [Man’s Voice] What was the
purpose of the fuckin’ pants? – [Jeff] Well originally
it was a comfort thing. It was to be able to jump and move around in your clothes. – ‘Cause it got rave. Dude fuckin’ jeans, bright pink, like cut off. That shit was crazy. – Because before that
everybody was running around in peg Dickies and peg blue jeans. – Yeah we were trying to skate in a pair of 501’s as an adult man. It’s fucked. (man cries out) I remember you prided yourself on not having scratches in the middle of your fuckin’ board. It was technical fuckin’, you’re doing crooked grinds, your doing tail nose slide type shit. Fuckin’ lip slides, smith grinds, that shit’s a little heshin’. You know what I mean? – The whole hesh versus fresh thing. That was real. – And I feel like it took
me later to look back and see all the rad shit
I missed because of that fuckin’ mentality. – Yeah. – ‘Cause you had dudes like
Wade Speyer and shit then. (rock music) And Cardiel doing the gnarliest shit. (rock music) And I was just so focused on the whole flip in flip out, flying jeans, all that shit you know. It was crazy. I remember when things
kind of tightened up. Actually it didn’t tighten up but it kind of got normal… – Yeah. – [Anthony] With Salmon Lagat. ‘Cause he was just wearing
regular size Dickies. – [Jeff] Yeah. – And I felt it was right around the era when it kind of changed. It shifted. Everyone stopped. – And then everybody went
super thin and tight. And that whole John Fenders era was born. – [Boy’s Voice] So why
go to all the trouble of skatin’ on the street when you can find yourself
a nice smooth area enclosed with no traffic, no pedestrians, an area where you can concentrate? Someplace like this. – If you’re in L.A., and even kind of getting
out to Long Beach, it almost seems like the
same people design schools. They all have those blacktop banks. It’s very common. And they all have the same source of where they got the
tables and the benches and all that shit. So when one would burn out, you just go to another one ’cause the same shit is there. (electric guitar music) Back when I had the hits and the bumps and it changed over the years and even the last change
with the planners and shit, people were like put a
table in middle of that. Put a ramp up to it. You’re either blasting the whole plan, like Gino backside
flipped it and yeah right, or people doing manual tricks
on the top of the table in middle of the plan. So that school specifically
evolved so much and constantly evolved into something new and rad that you could use. So that’s I think what made it
such a fuckin’ landmark spot. – Architects and engineers, thank you so much. You fucking rule. – Yeah, that’s incredible. – If you are an architect or an engineer in the fuckin’ 50’s… (rock music) When did you meet Dill? – I met Dill, I can’t tell exactly when I met Dill. He’s two years older than me. He was already sponsored
by Black Label I think. (rock music) I was probably like 13 or so then. (rock music) – [Man’s voice] When
did you get on Workshop? – We got on Workshop
probably like might have been six months to a year of living up here. – [Man’s Voice] Now you
can tell us the reason why you got that Workshop tat. – [Jeff] Well it was the 90’s. And there was lots of
alien conspiracy tapes being circulated through the media and kind of in the underground. And I was just a fan, man. Fuckin’ exalt the fuckin’ new God. Are you kidding me? – [Anthony] Yeah that
was pretty fuckin’ epic. – [Jeff] It was clean. – [Anthony] It was just
straight to the fuckin’ point. – [Jeff] Yeah and there
was kind of this underlying fuck you to it. Blender’s connection to it. They came out with Memory Screen, and Memory Screen was bad ass. – Memory Screen was incredible. That was like a art piece. (violin rock music) I remember when I first saw
it I didn’t understand it. I was like, I’m ready to see some skating. The first 10 minutes is just an acid trip (makes buzzing sounds). And I was just like,
what the fuck is this? It sucks. – Duane Petrie, Lennie Kirk. – [Anthony] Yeah, Fred Gall. – [Jeff] Freddie Gall. – Minefield era. Omar and Dylan got on. (bagpipes and rock music) Arto came on kind of
towards the end of that. And then was off again right after. Danny Way right after this. – [Jeff] It was fuckin’ brilliant. The riders that came out of it, the graphics, the videos. There were gods on that team. (rock music) – That’s how you’re doin’ it now. ‘Cause everyone’s doin’ it. Everyone’s fucking good. You know what I mean? (skateboard sounds) It’s how do you look doing it? That’s what’s important to me. And I think that’s always been a thing. But it’s still true today. I feel like Bill and the
dudes that are on our team and how that just kind
of organically happened because I think that’s what
me and Jason believe in, so it did just happen. These kids were little kids. They were getting Workshop awards, hangouts ring, they lived around here or wherever and then when we did our thing it was like well this is our team. These guys, you know? It’s a trip. I mean it really puts it in perspective. A career, I mean I hate even saying career it’s so fucking lame. But making video parts, getting sponsored, all this self obsession
to progress yourself and all this shit and then be here now and be like that’s what it was for. ‘Cause now these guys, you get to help facilitate
them in their journey into fuckin’ doing all this shit. For me it’s just come
full circle in that sense. – Yeah man that’s fuckin’ awesome. Thanks for sittin’ down with us man. – Fuck yeah. – This has been awesome. – Thanks for having me. – Fuckin’ Lee Ralph. Turn this shit off. – Yeah. – Your life’s out there. Go skateboarding. Thanks for watching. Go. Bye-bye. Thanks. Beat it. Go skate. All right.

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88 thoughts on “Loveletters Season 10: Anthony Van Engelen | Jeff Grosso’s Loveletters to Skateboarding | VANS

  • September 12, 2019 at 11:27 am
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    Glad I have no life and am up at 430
    So glad 👅👅🎉🎉🎉

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:33 am
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    How about a paulo diaz episode, thanks kindly for sharing these videos

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:33 am
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    wake up . smoke pot . love letters.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:38 am
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    Up early, or late? 🙂

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:53 am
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    fucking awesome

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:56 am
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    I remember when all you could get were small wheels, they really sucked.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:02 pm
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    Our collective history are not Wall Hangers. Thanks Grosso. 🙏🖤

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:10 pm
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    Please do an episode dedicated to Skatemaster Tate!!!!! He made such an impact on so many lives!!!!! Please!!!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:10 pm
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    we need a kevin “kush cowboy” bradley love letter

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:17 pm
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    Another great episode in the books- keep'em coming… Good to see AVE getting the recognition he's receiving of late. He would more than likely tell you it's all BullSh#t / none of it matters and to F' off. But that's what happens when you put the work in on top of being gnarly as fu#k!!!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:19 pm
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    My pal had 38's I think they were at one time. 38's on that napping negro board and the biggest green blind jeans ever!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:43 pm
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    Fabulous interview.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 12:52 pm
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    Jimenez haha

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:04 pm
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    Hot damn!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:17 pm
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    The trick montage throughout this is amazing.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:23 pm
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    Photosynthesis started it all for me personally. Ave and Dill still my favorite skaters 20 years later. RAD.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:23 pm
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    Wake up and smell the coffee boys Sakura Yosozumi is catching up to you!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:31 pm
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    THANK YOU JEFF GROSSO

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:31 pm
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    Fuck yes

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  • September 12, 2019 at 1:38 pm
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    So Much Better Than TV!!!!
    I love you inmensly, dude, keep on with this amazing shit <3

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  • September 12, 2019 at 2:05 pm
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    Most common type of memory screen reported by abductees: seeing "owls."

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  • September 12, 2019 at 2:06 pm
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    How much did they pay Grosso to sip that can of monster?

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  • September 12, 2019 at 2:57 pm
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    Almost shit when I seen Letters on AVE! I’m gonna be late for work I’m watching this shit

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  • September 12, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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    👍🏽👍🏽

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  • September 12, 2019 at 3:04 pm
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    AVE seems like a really serious intense person …

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  • September 12, 2019 at 3:19 pm
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    One dislike. Henry Garcia watched this vid 😂🤘

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  • September 12, 2019 at 3:30 pm
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    Grosso reminds me of a nacho Cheeto

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  • September 12, 2019 at 3:43 pm
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    flavor of the monster?

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  • September 12, 2019 at 4:31 pm
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    Thanks for reminding us to go skate

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  • September 12, 2019 at 4:57 pm
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    Ave!!!!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 5:02 pm
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    So great!!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 5:07 pm
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    Yeah buddy! let’s see a Jeremy Wray letter!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 5:20 pm
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    After meeting Dill I learned tail 3shuv out huh

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  • September 12, 2019 at 5:31 pm
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    Big pants, small wheels, flip tricks, noooooooooooooooo!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 5:51 pm
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    that was great

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:00 pm
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    Grosso looks so low energy on this episode

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:06 pm
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    true ripper

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:27 pm
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    Lovely

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:41 pm
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    sick!!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:42 pm
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    ave is the goat

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:45 pm
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    First real board was an AWS AVE birth to grave deck. Still my favorite skateboarder of all time.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 6:57 pm
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    Sick! 🤘

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  • September 12, 2019 at 7:11 pm
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    Lee Ralph episode make it happen!

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  • September 12, 2019 at 7:12 pm
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    smokin my spliff rn

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  • September 12, 2019 at 7:14 pm
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    In Spain, AVE is an acronym that means "Alta Velocidad Española" (Spanish High Speed). In English, AVE also means high speed.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 7:30 pm
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    It’s not pushing mongo, it’s pushing Danforth.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 7:47 pm
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    Worst one inna while, like a couple o middle aged goofs chattin bout fashion back in their day ;/

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  • September 12, 2019 at 7:52 pm
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    Alien Workshop had the most stacked team. Sad that they had to drop all of their riders but after Rob Dyrdek and his own thing it seemed like Alien Workshop just stopped doing its own thing. I mean that team had Mikey Taylor, Grant Taylor, Dill, AVE, and fucking Dylan Rieder all these legends and barely any videos were produced with those riders. Atleast from what I've seen maybe I'm just dumb but I don't see any videos of the Alien Workshop team going on tour and going to some place like fucking Latvia and getting those guys to just do their thing.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 8:34 pm
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    wait danny fucking way on alien..?

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  • September 12, 2019 at 8:38 pm
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    After all these years since The D.C. Video I finally know how to properly pronounce his name.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 8:54 pm
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    Not getting an AVE Epicly Laterd or Nine Club episode? This will definitely suffice!

    Edit: Okay, just finished it. We definitely need an Epicly Laterd or Nine Club for AVE.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 9:08 pm
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    AYYYY AVE THE FUCKING TRUTH. bring back the cornrows my guy

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  • September 12, 2019 at 9:30 pm
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    yep

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  • September 12, 2019 at 10:02 pm
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    Lockwood lurkers

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  • September 12, 2019 at 10:15 pm
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    Rip Gabe Miss ya buddy

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:00 pm
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    Amazing episode thank you Jeff Grosso

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:07 pm
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    Thanks for this Jeff, AVE and Vans. I love this mans skateboarding, I just really wish his new shoe didn't retail at $199.95 Australian dollars.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 11:14 pm
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    so rad you guys are the best

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  • September 13, 2019 at 12:10 am
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    We want more!

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  • September 13, 2019 at 12:32 am
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    where the FUCK is this old footage of Grosso? the vid in the bar that starts at 3:50, ive seen other clips that look like the same video in other episodes of the letters

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  • September 13, 2019 at 12:45 am
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    What the hell is that bar scene from?

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  • September 13, 2019 at 12:45 am
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    Getting hyped about workshop and No mention of Kalis?, bit sad really. These guys have their biases.

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  • September 13, 2019 at 12:56 am
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    🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

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  • September 13, 2019 at 1:07 am
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    That Vision Lee Ralph was pretty sick. Decent nose..
    Bout the same time as the bbc jeff hartsells with the noses getting more kick.

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  • September 13, 2019 at 1:21 am
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    There's never any sufficient footage of Lee Ralph. Can you get Lee on this? Would hate a legend like him to go unnoticed.

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  • September 13, 2019 at 1:51 am
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    I remember skating in late 92 and a new school kid picked up my board and said "I can't believe this is what skating used to be"

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  • September 13, 2019 at 2:15 am
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    should of left jereme Rogers out of that montage

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  • September 13, 2019 at 2:19 am
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    Awesome

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  • September 13, 2019 at 2:39 am
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    17:47 – "OHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

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  • September 13, 2019 at 2:45 am
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    Amazing..A.V.E Jeff legends of great times of skateboarding!!!

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  • September 13, 2019 at 2:53 am
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    AVE is my idol thanks for this video

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  • September 13, 2019 at 3:03 am
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    Engelen with a hard R😂😂😂

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  • September 13, 2019 at 3:49 am
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    AVE favorite Skater ever
    Remember the day when he was SOTY announced was like my birthday Party
    best day ever.

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  • September 13, 2019 at 4:24 am
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    AVE's epic intro in the DC video made me a fan to this day

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  • September 13, 2019 at 4:26 am
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    These are all so awesome.

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  • September 13, 2019 at 4:44 am
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    Please bring back the old intro song

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  • September 13, 2019 at 4:45 am
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    Arto rode for AWS?

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  • September 13, 2019 at 5:39 am
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    Van Engelen is starting to look like Klaus Kinski

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  • September 13, 2019 at 6:14 am
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    did this motivate tf out of anyone else? or just me

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  • September 13, 2019 at 6:35 am
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    Hahahahaha pool grind brah

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  • September 13, 2019 at 6:56 am
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    WTF AND HOLY FAAAACK TO THE MINI FULL PIPE LOOPER!?!?!!!!

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  • September 13, 2019 at 8:02 am
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    Need an episode of H-Street !!!!!!

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  • September 13, 2019 at 8:04 am
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    An episode about that switch from 89 to 92

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  • September 13, 2019 at 8:14 am
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    and because he has a shoe out but neverminds that

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  • September 13, 2019 at 8:14 am
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    what happened to skateboarding?? it use to be a very sub culture and when dudes landed tricks we went "yeah man" and gave a daps. now skaters are constantly fucking hugging after every single attempt at a trick……………………why? why the constant fucking bro boners for one another? stop hugging every 5 minutes lol

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  • September 13, 2019 at 8:51 am
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    Favorite skater who is still alive today. He sure does say Shit a lot! Hahaha!

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  • September 13, 2019 at 9:28 am
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    3:50 where's this from

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  • September 13, 2019 at 9:55 am
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    Hey Grosso what video was the bar sene from?

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