Yogeeta: You’re In the Loop! We’re here to discuss the ups, downs and
side-ways of the sport of Figure Skating and maybe give you +5 GOE along the way. Let’s introduce this weeks hosts. Evie: Hi, I’m Evie and I made the bad decision
to host this episode fully knowing that I would be dead tired after attending Australian
Nationals all of this past week. I’m on Twitter @doubleflutz. Yogeeta: Hi, I’m Yogeeta and this weekend
has made me very sad, but there was some highlights. I’m on Twitter @liliorum. Niamh: Hello, I’m Niamh and I’ve spent
the past weekend looking for Golden Spin updates which are very few and far between. You can find me on Twitter @rivrdance. Evie: So, the Junior Grand Prix Final. Oh boy, it was a whole thing. The Seniors were a bit of a mess all around
and the Juniors were as well. I think this Grand Prix Final in general was
a little bit of a mess. Niamh: In summary, Italy why? Evie: We’re going to get started off talking
about the Juniors with obviously the Pairs. Our podium was, in gold, Apollinariia Panfilova
and Dmitry Rylov of Russia, in silver, Diana Mukhametzianova and Ilya Mironov also of Russia,
and in third, we had Kseniia Ahkanteva and Valerii Kolseov also of Russia. Russian sweep, not surprising. Yogeeta: There were 5 Russians and 1 German. So, the odds were in their favour. Niamh: I’m so impressed with how you got
through those names. Evie: I had too much practice, Niamh. That’s what doing all the JGP episodes will
do to you! Yogeeta: I did all the JGP episodes, I just
avoided saying the Russian names. [Hosts laugh] Niamh: I spent like 20 minutes earlier drilling
Diana’s name. Evie: [Laughs] It is a very tricky name. But yeah, like a lot of the other disciplines
in both Seniors and Juniors, Junior Pairs was quite messy. Even Panfilova and Rylov, who have been really
consistent this season, ended that streak because they had some pretty minor and major
errors in both programs here which was disappointing to see because I absolutely love them. I’m very glad they still managed to win even
though the margin was like a point. The errors were quite shocking to see, especially
when they had the fall on the throw in the Free, which we don’t see very often with
them. Nearly everyone else had minor errors as well,
like shakey landings on throws and side-by-side errors. Lot’s of scary lift issues too, honestly,
there were so many lifts I saw these past couple days that were either really slow or
the position changes were really shaky. I always really worried that the guys were
going to drop all of the girls. Yogeeta: Please don’t speak those things. I don’t want to think about potential falls. Evie: But in general, with the exception of
Diana and Ilya, everyone had better skates in the qualifiers… Yogeeta: Isn’t that just the theme of the
Grand Prix and JGP? Evie: Honestly, it could have just been down
to nerves, since it is such a big arena to be in, with such a history as well. But all these teams have had over a month
to prepare for the Grand Prix Final. Yogeeta: They’ve had lots of time, since
the Junior Grand Prix ended in September. I think for the most part, I kind of enjoyed
the fact that who was going to win and podium here was in the air because I’m so used
to being like “These are the teams that are going to be on the podium, maybe we’ll
have one team not make the podium and someone else being a surprise,” but it was really
close here. In that regard, it was an interesting competition
to watch. Eive: It was pretty much a given that Panfliova
and Rylov would made it onto the podium, but the other two places were kind of a question
mark because none of these teams are known for being consistent. The Russian teams other than Panfilova and
Rylov are kind of all over the place, and have been for the qualifiers as well, so it
was very much anything can happen. It was anyone’s to kind of step up to the
plate and win, or at least podium. But let’s just go into talking about Panfliova
and Rylov because it wasn’t their best performances here, but they did, finally, get a level 4
on their twist in their Short which I was really relieved to see. Yogeeta: I love their twist. It’s just so airy, and effortless and she
seems like she’s weightless. She gets so high up in the air too. I can just watch them do twists all day. Evie: Especially in the Free, her dress in
mid-air – the way that the skirt twirls – it’s so good. Yogeeta: Ugh, it’s stunning. When she does land, because, unfortunately,
she didn’t land all her throws here, it also feels weightless. I just don’t know how they do it, man. They’re such a good team. They’re so special in the Pairs field, where
I feel like everybody is trying to go for the big and the drama, and they don’t feel
like they’re going for the big and the drama, but they feel so ethereal. I don’t get that feeling from a lot of other
Pairs teams so it makes me remember the even more. I remember that feeling, and I remember watching
them in amazement that like wow, they’re truly making these things look so effortless. Evie: They’re clearly the class of the field
here. There’s no exception. They did have those errors, like I said. They had that fall on the throw and in the
Short, they had the level 1 death spiral, because they really struggled to get into
that position. Apollinariia’s head was nowhere near the ice
in the first couple of rotations, and the Free had errors as well. It was just a little bit messy all around
– but their lifts guys, and the twist. They’re so top-notch and so clearly ahead
of all of the other Junior Pairs. But, right now, it’s getting to that point
where they’re really going to need at least one set of triples, side-by-side triples,
I’d say by Junior Worlds. The field at the moment looks like it’s starting
to close ranks around the top, especially with how Diana and Ilya performed here with
their surprise silver medal. Yogeeta: Everything else was a surprise in
this event. Evie: Because when Diana and Ilya are clean
like they were here in the Free, they do side-by-side triple Lutzes and flips. That alone is crazy. Their throws are really nice, they have a
really good twist. They kind of remind me of [Anastasia] Mishina
and [Aleksandr] Galliamov, if they were slightly weaker in performance but with even crazier
triples. They also have that similar issue with their
lifts where they don’t necessarily get as much speed as I would like them to, and the
changes of position can get a bit scary. They really remind me of Mishina and Galliamov
in that respect. I’m so upset that they ditched their old Short
Program that they were doing on the Junior Grand Prix – their “Crack of Doom” Short
– because that was one of my favorite Junior Pairs programs of the season and they got
rid of it and I’m so upset. I like “Czardas,” I really like that music,
but I think their old Short suited them so much better. I’m just like, “Guys, you were onto something
good.” Yogeeta: They were also so close, score-wise,
to Panfilova and Rylov. I’m a little concerned that if Panfliova and
Rylov don’t get there side-by-side triples, Diana and Ilya can beat them, at Junior Worlds. Evie: And Diana and Ilya weren’t even clean
in both programs. They had errors in the Short as well, and
they still got between a point in the total. Yogeeta: Because their tech content is just
so crazy high. They were five points ahead in tech in the
free. By this rate, if they consistently continue
doing well, their component scores are going to go up as well. And components is where Panfliova and Rylov
are truly shining, but as that gap starts to get closer and closer, smaller and smaller;
they really need to up their side-by-sides to truly remain the top of their field. Evie: They posted on their Instagram that
they’re training side-by-side triple Sals but, obviously, they’re not going for it yet
in the competition, but I’m really looking for the possibility that we might be able
to see them soon. If they get at least one set, their scores
are going to automatically jump quite a bit and I’m very excited for that. And then, our bronze medalists, Ahkanteva
and Kolseov. Honestly, they did really well here all things
considered. I think their Short Program was the best performance
we’ve seen of it, so far, and they seemed really pleased with how they did here. They seemed really happy with their skates
overall, at least they seemed happy with their Short. They did have quite a few issues in the Free
that did cost them silver. In fact, it almost nearly knocked them off
the podium. That three-point lead over Artemeva and Nazarychev
in the Short only just managed to stave them off, it was very close. Niamh: I’m just so meh on their Free. They’re just kind of skating through the music
if that makes sense. There’s no performance, or connection which
is fine. They’re young, they’re Juniors but it’s just
something I’d like to see them work on a bit more. Especially because it’s Pink Floyd. Evie: I think that the construction of the
program is one of the main programs though in regards to that just because they’re only
using one song, and the cut that they chose of that song, because “Shine on You Crazy
Diamond” is quite long, but they don’t even use the chorus part of it, [Niamh: Yeah] where
it actually gets upbeat and so it’s quite repetitive and very same-y by the end of it. Niamh: There’s just so much more they could
have done with a Pink Floyd program. Evie: There’s so many good Pink Floyd songs
that you could skate to. Yogeeta: I’m kind of missing my crazy Junior
Russians from last season. Niamh: The Jungle Russians. [Polina Kostiukovich/Dmitrii Ialin] Evie: I miss them so much. Junior [Nationals] isn’t until the end of
next month, and we’re not sure if Kostiukovich and Ialin might be back then, and it’s going
to be interesting how they fit into the field because we have so many Russian teams who
are inconsistent at this point that the Junior Worlds team is really up in the air. It’s going to come down to how everyone did
here at the Final, but also how Junior Nationals are going to fare. I think that if Kostiukovich and Ialin come
back and skate anywhere close to where they were skating last season, they’ll easily a
spot on the team. Yogeeta: I really hope they come back. I miss them and their crazy programs. Evie: I miss their crazy programs, their crazy
lifts, their crazy everything. Come back kids. Yogeeta: They can teach some lessons to Senior
Pairs. Niamh: Yes. They could. -end segment- START: Men Niamh: And moving onto Junior Men, we had
Shun Sato from Japan in first, Andrei Mozalev from Russia in second, and Daniil Samsonov,
also from Russia, in third. Evie: Shun Sato, Junior Grand Prix Final champion,
was not something I was expecting. Niamh: Shun saved this entire Grand Prix Final. Yogeeta: Honestly, Shun was like the one shining
hope for me after everything that happened. Niamh: The only reason this Grand Prix Final
is not completely and utterly erased from my memory. Yogeeta: I’m so pleasantly surprised by Shun
here. Honestly, coming into the Junior Grand Prix
Final, I expected one Japanese man on this podium, and it was not Shun. I expected Yuma [Kagiyama] to be on the podium
over Shun, and to have him win was mind-blowing for me. Evie: It was a complete surprise in the best
possible way. It’s just so exciting to see someone just
come out and skate so well and completely dominate over the field. Yogeeta: He set 2 Junior world records. It wasn’t like one point off – he blew away
the other two records for the Free and overall score. This was incredible. This was not something I expected to see from
a Junior. Niamh: Especially because he had been skipped
out on assignments last year, so we’ve only ever seen him on like the domestic scene. Yogeeta: Throwback to all of my comments last
season about how I was upset about JSF skipping out on Shun Sato. Niamh: Even last year on the domestic scene,
he was very jump orientated. Evie: Yeah, he was very much focused on his
elements rather than the performance side of things, and you can see how much of an
improvement he’s made over the past off-season in his performance. He’s really matured as a skater. Niamh: To see him come out on what’s basically
his international debut season, with genuine improvements then qualify to the final, and
then win the final with record skates. Yogeeta: I’m super impressed because this
was not the Shun Sato we saw in the Junior Grand Prix either. The Shun Sato there was still pretty jump
orientated. When I saw him in the Short, I was like “He’s
a lot faster than he was in the Junior Grand Prix.” What happened to you in two months, Shun? Evie: Honestly, can somebody find a way for
me to able to inject Shun’s Free Skate here directly into my veins because I feel like
I need my vitamin Shun “Romeo and Juliet” every day. That Free is going to be like my pump-up program
to watch to get motivated to do stuff. Yogeeta: I’m also really impressed because
just a few weeks ago, he placed second at Junior Nationals, and he said in the press
conference after the competition here that after Junior Nats he basically went back and
practiced everything – he practiced his jumps, he practiced his spins, he practiced his skating. I’m very impressed that instead of just saying,
“I went back and drilled my jumps” he drilled everything and really really showed that he
was making efforts to improve. Evie: His work ethic is just so admirable
in that respect, and it’s making me really excited to see, if he was that dedicated to
improving his performance just in the span of a couple of weeks, how much is he going
to grow in the gap between Japanese Senior Nats and Junior Worlds next year. The opportunity for growth is just exponential
at this point. Yogeeta: Can we talk about his quad Lutz? Evie: Oh yeah! It was gorgeous! Niamh: So good. Yogeeta: He said at the press conference that
he was originally attempting to do a quad Sal, but then he tried a quad Lutz and thought
it was easier than the quad Sal, so that’s why he’s doing a quad Lutz now. Evie: It sounds like Sasha Trusova energy
at this point – the quad Lutz is easier than the quad Sal. That’s what it sounds like. Obviously, he’s going to have a lot of time
after Nationals. I hope he focuses in on his spins and steps
because that’s kind of a weakness at this point – he really needs to work on getting
his levels. Because he only got a level 2 step sequence
on both of his programs here, which is definitely a problem. He can very easily rectify that with the amount
of time he’s got in between the next couple major competitions he has. Niamh: The fact that he’s still getting world
record skates with a level 2 step sequence. Yogeeta: That’s some Sendai energy flowing
through his veins. He did say at the press conference that he’s
going to go back and practice more on the steps and spins and jumps, and I’m just like,
“You do you. Can you also send some of that work ethic
my way, please?” Evie: Honestly I need it. Yogeeta: With his win here, he’s basically
guaranteed his spot at Junior Worlds. Also, I have to make this parallel but, Yuzuru
won Junior Grand Prix [Final] ten years ago, and now Shun won it, and they’re both from
Sendai, and Yuzuru’s his idol – it just brings me joy. Evie: Let’s talk about Yuma, because he had
some pretty uncharacteristic mistakes in both of his programs here. He wasn’t as solid as we saw him on the circuit
earlier. Yogeeta: Yeah. It was really surprising that he missed that
Axel in the Short because I don’t think I’ve ever seen him miss that Axel in the Short. It was really weird, and that basically cost
him the podium, honestly, because he was three points off of bronze. But I love Yuma, he’s great. He has the best skating skills of any Junior
Man – honestly, of most Senior Men too. Evie: He’s so fast and smooth. Yogeeta: And even with his mistakes, he still
sells his programs really really well. He had a fall in his free, but that didn’t
really stop him from performing and doing the best he could and he jumped from 6th to
4th and placed 3rd in the Free. So, he definitely has so much potential and
he’s also going to be at Junior Worlds because he’s the [Japanese] Junior National Champion,
so really excited to see how he performs there. But both he and Shun are going to be at Japanese
[Senior] Nationals, and he said in an interview that he’s planning on doing a quad Flip and
quad Loop at Japanese Nationals so… Niamh: He’s already qualified to Junior Worlds,
what’s he got to lose at Senior Nats? Yogeeta: I’m so excited for the state of Japanese
men right now because they’ve gotten a really deep field in the past two years, so I don’t
actually know what’s going to happen with Japanese men at Nationals, which is something
I couldn’t say last year. Evie: Honestly, I want to give a little bit
of a shout out – I wanna talk quickly about our silver medalist, Andrei Mozalev, because
it’s been a while since I’ve watched his programs. I haven’t rewatched them since he was on the
circuit and when I was watching the competitions live. And I honestly completely forgot about the
music cut half way through his spin in the free skate from the “Gangster’s Paradise”
and whatever he uses- Yogeeta: “In this Shirt”? Evie: Yeah, “In this Shirt” – I completely
forgot about it and it was that moment of, I was half asleep watching this on my couch
and going, “The hell is going on with this music cut?” Yogeeta: I have to say that I’m impressed
by Andrei and the programs he was able to put out here. He got the job done. Evie: Especially because he qualified very
highly because he won both of his Junior Grand Prix assignments, but probably out of the
field, he got some of the easier assignments and so his overall total scores by which he
was winning the events were a little bit lower on average. And so I wasn’t really expecting him to come
into the Final and actually end up on the podium, but he did really deliver two solid
skates and obviously there is still a lot in his skating that he needs to work on, especially
in performance because at the moment he is very much still a Junior in that respect. Yogeeta: His Free Skate music isn’t really
helping him there. Evie: No, it’s not. But his overall consistency and his tech across
this competition is really astounding and I’m excited to see where he’ll go from here. Yogeeta: Just briefly about this Men’s event
overall: Junior Men is easily way more chaotic than Senior Men. Because this was not the podium I expected
at all, in any flavor. Niamh: I expected Daniil. Evie: Yeah, I expected Daniil to make it on
the podium in some position. Yogeeta: I expected Daniil to be gold or silver
medalist, so even getting a bronze would’ve been surprising to me. And obviously I said I did not expect Shun,
but bless his heart. Shun was clean – he had two clean skates,
which for a Junior Man to have two clean skates with quads and triple Axels? Impossible in my mind. Hopefully he can lean on that consistency
and actually make it a thing because if he can do that, then he’s going to be unbeatable. Andrei came out, got the job done, and I’m
really impressed that despite the fact that Yuma, who I was hoping to podium, didn’t podium
– everyone here tried their best. -end segment- START: Ice Dance Evie: Okay, moving onto Ice Dance. Our podium is, in gold, Maria Kazakova and
Georgy Reviya of Georgia, in silver, Avonley Nguyen and Vadym Kolesnik of the US, and in
bronze, we have Elizaveta Shanaeva and Devid Naryzhnyy of Russia. So, it was a bit of a surprise twist that
Kazakova/Reviya ended up winning – not a twist that I am particularly upset with because
they have really grown on me over the last season. But they’re the first Georgian Ice Dance team
to win a major international ISU competition, and the last time a non-North American or
non-Russian team won the Junior Grand Prix Final was back in 2003 with a Hungarian team,
Hoffman and Elek – so it’s been a while since a team from a different fed has come and shook
things up. And it’s just great to see a smaller fed teams,
even though Kazakova/Reviya do train in Russia, come out and win major titles, especially
with the climate in Dance right now in regards to how federations politic with each other. Yogeeta: Yeah, I’m happy they won and I’m
also sad. Evie: We knew you were gonna be sad, Yogs. Yogeeta: Maybe you should talk about K/R first
before I talk about being sad. Evie: Maria and Georgy – they actually placed
6th last year at the Junior Grand Prix Final and now they come back and they have their
first major gold medal. Yogeeta: I stan a glow-up. Evie: It’s such an impressive glow-up over
such a short period of time, over a single season, to see how much they’ve improved. We’ve talked about before on the other Junior
Grand Prix episodes how much their programs this season really highlight their skating
and how they really suit them in comparison to their more classical programs that they
had last year. Especially in regards to their performance
and interpretation, which I personally found a little bit lacking in last year – both of
their programs, especially the Free, really allow them to kind of open up and connect
with the audience a little bit more. Yogeeta: Yeah, and that they’re doing a lot
of really cool elements in the Free as well, that you don’t see a lot of the other ice
dance teams doing, which make them stand out a lot, especially to an average viewer who
doesn’t know as much about ice dance — you can put them side to side and they’ll be one
of the few that people actually remember. Evie: They do that weird throw thing at the
start of their program where he literally just throws her over his shoulder – it’s so
freaking rad. There are obviously some things that they
do need to improve on as a team, mainly in regards to their levels, but most teams also
have to work on that as well – especially in their patterns and one-foot step sequences. But they’ve got so much time from here to
Junior Worlds to work on that that I’m not really worried at this point for them. Considering how much we’ve seen them grow
in just the last couple of months, I have faith that they’ll take what they’ve learned
here to heart and come back in fighting form for Junior Worlds. Niamh: Especially because having a really
great result like this, it’s only going to push them and motivate them more. Because now they know that they can compete
with the Russian teams and Nguyen/Kolesnik and good results can only mean good things. Yogeeta: I’m hoping they have a really good
continued breakout season here because politicking for Juniors isn’t as crazy as it is for Seniors,
so they really need to make an impact as Juniors before they move into Seniors to actually
go head to head with all the crazy politicking that happens in Senior Dance. [Niamh: Oh god] Evie: You are very correct in that front. Okay, let’s let Yogs go cry over N/K for a
few minutes. Yogeeta: I have to cry about N/K. So they placed silver and they did amazing,
they did great and I love them. They were very close; the difference between
gold and silver here was what, 0.14 points or something? Evie: Something like that. It was a tiny, tiny difference. Yogeeta: It was a very small margin and just
looking at Avonley and Vadym, they have the best programs of all the US Dance teams, Junior
and Senior. That’s just the state of the game. But they’re such a special team, guys. I don’t know, they have this presence on the
ice that just draws you in and I can’t not watch them when they’re on the ice. I think I just adopted them because they kind
of remind me of the [Shibutanis] somehow, because both they and the Shibs are such amazing
Free Dance skaters. And their Free Dances remind me of what the
Shibs became really well known for. But work on your levels, children. This happened last season too – they are clearly
amazing skaters, they have great skating skills, and really strong programs – but it all ultimately
comes down to technical scores not being high enough to get them the gold because they aren’t
hitting their levels. Evie: Yeah, and honestly they were at a base
value disadvantage in both of their programs here, and it’s the same kind of issue they
had during the actual Junior Grand Prix. Because they had pretty easy assignments at
both of their events – they didn’t really have anyone there that could really challenge
them technically. And also their PCS could make up for any kind
of pitfalls they found themselves in back in their assignments. But here, the field was a lot closer and I
wasn’t expecting Kazakova and Reviya to be as clean as they were here, so they were naturally
closer in scoring. Yogeeta: It’s still very interesting to see
that like, Maria and Georgy, and Avonley and Vadym, versus the rest of the field here. These were clearly the two front-runners. They were ten points above the other teams. So, it was really close. It’s going to be a really interesting showdown
at Junior Worlds between these two teams to see who will come out on top. I honestly – obviously, I’m me. I would have probably given Avonley and Vadym
the win here. Niamh: [sarcastically] Really? Evie: Unsurprisingly. Yogeeta: Just because I think their components
are so pretty much stronger. They only won PCS in the Free by 0.2 points,
which I think is a little too small a margin because I think their skating skills and the
compositions of their programs are a little bit better than Maria and Georgy, and they
did win components by like a point in the Rhythm Dance. So I didn’t really understand why that margin
went down so much for the Free, but overall either team could’ve won and it was still
an amazing competition to watch. Shall we talk about the Russians? Evie: Let’s do it, because honestly I was
expecting the main match up to between Avonley and Vadym and Liza [Elizaveta] and Devid. Those were the two teams I was expecting to
be vying for that gold position, but unfortunately Liza and Devid did have level issues. They got a lot of level 2s, which dragged
down their TES quite a bit considering they got really pretty good scores in both their
JGPs. Yogeeta: I will say that the tech panel here
was very strict. Evie: At least they were consistently strict. Yogeeta: It’s a good thing, but it does really
hurt some of the teams that we saw were having higher levels because of less strict tech
panels, at other comp[etitions.] So hopefully, they take these results as a
sign to go drill your patterns, children. Evie: The same kind of thing happened last
year though, at the Junior Grand Prix Final, because remember, the dance panels there were
really, really strict, also. But honestly, can we talk about [Elizaveta]
Khudaiberdeiva and [Andrey] Filatov placing fourth here, despite being basically a brand-new
team? Yogeeta: I’m so impressed with them. I think Andrey is such a better partner already
for Liza. They work a lot better together. Given another year, they can easily be the
top junior dance team. Evie: I’m really, really happy that they did
so well. And honestly, I think I would’ve probably
put them in the bronze position over Devid and Liza. Only a point was between third and fourth. Yogeeta: Probably here, it came down to a
little bit of reputation. Evie: Yeah, definitely. And Liza and Devid have been skating together
for — this is their second competitive season together, and obviously, Liza and Andrey were
a bit of an outlier starting out the season because we weren’t sure how this new partnership
was going to go, and then there was that whole mystery about, wait, is Liza sick or not? And then she turned up to the second assignment
and they weren’t sick, so I don’t know. It was a little bit of a question mark. I’m absolutely not surprised at the way those
two placements turned out. Yogeeta: This is going to be interesting to
see what’s going to happen at Russian Junior Nats for dance, because also [Arina] Ushakova
and [Maksym] Nekrasov are back and they won at Golden Spin, and they are such a wildcard
team that they can mess up any standings unexpectedly. Evie: Especially because Ushakova and Nekrasov
could contend for major medals, they can get really, really high scores, but at the same
time, they had issues at their major events last season. Obviously, they had problems at the Final,
they had problems at Junior Worlds, so it’s so up and down that you never really know
what you’re gonna get with them. Yogeeta: The Final last year was not really
a problem. It was just really close, like 0.01 close. They did have issues at Junior Worlds. Evie: Foreseeably, it’s probably gonna end
up being Shanaeva and Naryzhnyy, Khudaiberdieva and Filatov, and then Ushakova and Nekrasov
for the Junior Worlds team, because honestly, I don’t think that [Diana] Davis and [Gleb]
Smolkin have made a strong enough case to be put on that team yet, even though they
did make the Final. Their scores overall just haven’t been as
strong. Yogeeta: And the federation probably trusts
Ushakova and Nekrasov more than they do Davis and Smolkin, unfortunately. Evie: Junior Dance is just in a whole the
best discipline and I will continue to say this. It is the most valid discipline to watch because
really, anything can happen at the end of the day. Yogeeta: Anything can happen and also these
teams are having so much fun. I like more junior dance programs than in
Senior Dance. Evie: They’re allowed to experiment a bit
more and get outside of the box. Yogeeta: And there’s less politicking. Evie: Exactly, so that’s nice. Junior Dance. Everyone watch Junior Dance, please. They deserve. The Junior Dance teams deserve. Yogeeta: They deserve the world. They’re the best. -end segment- START: Ladies Evie: Our final discipline for the Junior
Grand Prix Final is the Ladies. Yogeeta: In gold we had Kamila Valieva of
Russia, in silver we had Alysa Liu of the US, and we had in bronze Daria Usacheva of
Russia. Let’s talk about tech. Hosts: [singing] Let’s talk about tech, baby! Let’s talk about you and me. Evie: You can see that the 3am delirium is
setting in. [Hosts laugh] Alysa did some pretty crazy
things in both of her programs here. Yogeeta: Alysa did her triple Axel-triple
toe in the short, like we saw her do at her [second] Junior Grand Prix assignment, and
it didn’t really give her the lead that she was looking for. She was attempting to use the higher-scoring
jumps to offset the lower GOEs that she’s been receiving on some of her elements compared
to the other Junior Ladies, but she was only leading by one point after the short. Evie: In comparison, looking at Daria’s backloaded
triple flip-triple toe that she does in her Short, there was only a one-point difference
in the scores they both got for those combos. It was 13.80 [for Alysa] versus 12.19 [for
Daria]. That was the difference between the triple
flip-triple toe in the second half versus the triple Axel-triple toe in the first half. Definitely not the kind of lead that Alysa
was expecting or hoping for. Yogeeta: Ultimately it comes down to the Grade
of Execution. Niamh: Especially because Kamila ended up
winning, even without any quads. Evie: Oh, yeah. Well, I’m very glad that she didn’t do any
quads considering that she was coming off an injury. I don’t want her to push herself by doing
the toe in the Free when she’s coming off something as serious as an injury, and I hope
that this won’t be a re-occurring thing later down the track of the season. Niamh: It was just interesting to see how
she managed to take the top spot even without those jumps. Yogeeta: Quality, Niamh. Quality. But the tech panel did not approve of Alysa’s
Free. [Niamh: No] Evie: Yeah, they went to town on it. Yogeeta: She fell on the first triple Axel,
and then had her other triple Axel and her two Lutzes called under, but it’s still really
amazing to see the power that these elements have on the scoring even with them being called
under. Even with the three underrotations and a fall,
her technical score was still within 1.5 points of Kamila, who had skated clean. Evie: And it was insane considering the overall
quality of Kamila’s elements. The fact that she skated a clean Free, even
though there was no quad involved, and still only managed to barely overtake Alysa is quite
surprising, at least to me. Niamh: I hate that it’s now surprising when
someone without a quad wins. Evie: I know! Yogeeta: Honestly, I’m happy that the tech
panel actually called Alysa but I’m also kind of concerned that she’s gonna see the scoring
here and think like, “Even with my unders, I still did really well, so maybe I should
keep doing it,” instead of focusing on improving the execution or improving her skating skills
and her other components, because she’s pretty slow. And there’s so much skating-wise that she
can improve on that I don’t think she really should be focusing on these jumps. Evie: At the end of the day, it’s really gonna
be beneficial for her to take a step back from the crazy technical improvements to really
buckle down and focus on her skating skills, her quality of her transitions, things like
that that really form the foundations and the basis for good skating. Yogeeta: Let’s talk about Kamila, who was
still able to win despite the injury and put together two pretty solid programs. Evie: She did have the error in the Short,
where she basically had no speed coming out of the loop, but the Free was amazing. Yogeeta: She’s such a lovely skater burdened
by terrible choreography. Niamh: As are most Eteri skaters. Evie: Honestly, I hadn’t rewatched this program
since her last Junior Grand Prix appearance, and I don’t know if it was just a me thing,
but the choreography here looked even more rushed and packed to the brim than usual. I don’t know if I just haven’t seen the program
in a while and honestly forgot- Niamh: I don’t know if I was just focused
on the quads in the past. Evie: Yeah, honestly. They just seemed like she was going from position
to position or one after another after another, all the transitions into the elements and
out of them, and there is something, obviously, to be said about the level of difficulty. It’s really crazy and really cool that she’s
able to pack that much content into both of her programs, but they just feel so bloated
and really rushed because she’s not taking the time to highlight the fact that she can
hit some amazing positions. Her flexibility is no joke. Yogeeta: I just keep coming back to that half
a second Ina Bauer. Why even have a half a second Ina Bauer if
you’re not gonna hold the Ina Bauer? Niamh: What’s the point? Yogeeta: She’s an amazing skater. You can have a very difficult program while
still leaving the moments for brilliance and letting her breathe and live in the moment. Niamh: I understand what they’re trying to
do going full ham with the transitions, but I find it more impressive if she was being
able to take the time to fully extend on some of the Ina Bauers and some of the spiral positions. Yogeeta: She has great lines, but they don’t
let her use it. Niamh: You can’t fully appreciate them because
they’re gone by the time you blink. Evie: I’m really happy that she was able to
put together such a solid skate considering the injury, and I’m interested to see what’s
gonna happen with both of these programs. Obviously, in her second Junior Grand Prix
she was doing the quad toe in combo, and I wouldn’t be at all shocked if she had other
quads that she’s been training because, you know, Eteri’s camp with their tech content. I’m interested to see, especially, what will
happen with Alysa at Nationals next month and if Kamila, in response, will potentially
try and up her technical content even further, because that’s always a possibility. It’ll be interesting to keep an eye on the
race towards Junior Worlds in that respect. So, Daria Usacheva came into the bronze position
here, which for me was a little bit surprising, considering that on the Junior Grand Prix
she wasn’t clean at either of her assignments and was a little bit rough overall. But she came out here, did what she needed
to do, had really good skates in both programs. I was quite pleasantly surprised with both
of her performances here. Yogeeta: Similarly with Kamila, Daria’s also
a lovely skater burdened by terrible choreography. When I watched her Short, I was just like,
“Are you skating to music? Or are you just skating and there’s music
overlaid?” Because nothing matched. Evie: Honestly, I think the main problem with
it is not really a choreography or composition problem, it’s specifically that the music
itself isn’t really suited to skating, or that cut of the music isn’t. For lack of a better term, it’s pretty sad,
listening to a woman crone about how she doesn’t want to love Dracula, because that’s literally
what the song is about. It doesn’t have any kind of progression or
build to it, and in some places it can be a little bit too soft, and while Daria is
definitely more suited towards mature, refined program or music choices, I think this is
a little bit bleak, honestly. Niamh: Why is a 14 or 15-year-old skating
to music by someone not loving Dracula? [Hosts laugh] Yogeeta: We never said that Juniors were skating
to age-appropriate music here. Evie: I think her Free is a little bit better. I think the “Je suis Malade” works a little
bit better for her, but I wish they amped up the drama a little bit more in the choreography,
especially with her expressions. It’s a little bit lackluster in that respect. Niamh: I can’t say I’ve ever watched her Free
because I’m just too busy bopping and singing. Yogeeta: I agree with the Free. I definitely think she has ample room to improve
on performance points, but neither of these programs are really helping her do that. Evie: It’ll be interesting to see how she
fares at Russian Junior Nats and to see if she’ll get a place on that Junior Worlds team,
because obviously with this placement at the Final, she definitely has a chance. I’m interested. I wish they would just give her new programs. Yogeeta: Let’s give a shoutout to Haein Lee
for her comeback from the Short to the Free and having the best Ladies’ Free Skate program
of the season. Evie: That step sequence, though. It is one of my favorite moments in Ladies’
skating this year. It is just amazing. Yogeeta: It’s so good. It also just lets her personality shine through. I wish I could see more of it in the rest
of the program, but God, she sells that step sequence. Evie: And she looked so happy afterwards. She looked so proud of herself. Yogeeta: I’m really excited. I see this as a path forward for her evolution
and seeing how she’ll grow, and that step sequence is just a glimpse of the potential
she has for what she can do with her future programs and I’m just so excited to see her
grow. And I’m hoping she has a much better Junior
Worlds experience. Evie: This whole Junior Grand Prix series
has been such a wild ride from start to finish. It really is insane how much talent we have
at the moment in the Juniors, and honestly, I really wish there were more Junior competitions
in between the Final and Worlds. Yogeeta: Why can’t we have a Junior Euros
and Junior Four Continents? Evie: I honestly miss seeing all of my kids
in that large gap. The desert wasteland of January and February. -end segment- START: Outro Yogeeta: Thank you for listening. We hope to see you again for our next episode. Niamh: And thank you to our transcribing and
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Episode 43 – Vitamin Shun (Junior Grand Prix Final 2019)
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One thought on “Episode 43 – Vitamin Shun (Junior Grand Prix Final 2019)

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    Time codes for this episode
    Pairs: 1:11
    Men: 11:54
    Ice Dance: 21:35
    Ladies: 33:13


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