Red: You’re In The Loop – we’re here to discuss
the ups, downs and sideways of the sport of figure skating, and maybe give you +5 GOE
along the way. Let’s introduce this week’s hosts: Yogeeta: Hi, I’m Yogeeta, your friendly
neighborhood Rabbit queen who very much would like to find one streaming service that actually
works on Rabbit. My Twitter handle is @liliorum. Sam: Hey, I’m Sam, and while my fantasy
team may have died, Satoko Miyahara brought me back from the grave. You can follow me on Twitter @quadlutze. Red: Hi, I’m Red, and I’ve been dead for
a while, but Nathan Chen brought me back to life. You can find my screaming on Twitter @ironicbirbb. Yogeeta: Great. Let’s start this episode with this week’s
figure skating news. So first, Carolina Kostner has unfortunately
withdrawn from both her Grand Prix events due to a hip injury, which I’m very sad
about. I’m going to miss seeing her elegant skating
on the Grand Prix this season. Sam: Also, in some sad news, Gabrielle Daleman
has also withdrawn from Skate Canada to take a break from training due to her mental health. Larkyn Austman, also from Canada, withdrew
because of a foot sprain. Red: Rika Hongo has moved her training base
to vancouver, Canada. She will be coached by Joanne Macleod, Megumu
Seki and Neil Wilson. She will continue to represent Chukyo University
despite the move abroad. Yogeeta: In some exciting news, Yuna Kim will
be skating at three of the stops of Javier Fernandez’s Revolution on Ice show. In some more exciting news, we’re now available
on Spotify! We publish a weekly roundup of news stories
you might have missed during the week and would like to catch up you can find them on
our website at -end segment- 2:07 START: Skate America 2018 – Pairs Sam: First up in the first stop of the Grand
Prix series, Skate America, held in Everett, Washington, was Pairs. The gold was Evgenia Tarasova and Vladimir
Morosov, silver Alisa Efimova and Alexander Korovin, and rounding out the podium, Ashley
Cain and Timothy LeDuc. For me, personally, I have to say that Tarasova
and Morosov kind of impressed me, in a way? Not completely. Their programs are so much better than anything
they’ve ever had before, specifically the Free Skate. It’s just the perfect style for them because
they’re not necessarily the best at projecting outwards. They just have these beautiful classic lines
and the great technical ability, but it gets lost in the fact especially in programs like
their Short Program where they’re putting on this fun program that requires you to engage
with the audience. You’re just kinda sitting there like, “Well,
that happened. That’s a really great throw. But you’re not giving me anything else. And it was nice to see Max[im Trankov]. Very nice to see Max. Yogeeta: I agree, I like their Free Skate. I like it, I don’t love it. I think it’s much better than having to
deal with Candyman again. But it doesn’t impress me emotionally. It very much gives me Savchenko and Massott
throwback feelings to their Olympic Free Skate. And when I watch I’m like, “Oh I wish
it was giving me the same kind of emotional impact that they had given me at the Olympics.” So it’s nice but I don’t feel much towards
it and I really don’t know what else they can do to actually make me feel like I am
emotionally connected to their skating, Sam: They have to realize there’s music
playing. Red: Yeah. They always look like there’s skating to
the formula and they don’t really care [about] anything else as long as they’re getting
what they need to get the high score that..I don’t know, it’s just very formulaic there’s
not a whole lot of emotion like all were saying. Yogeeta: Hashtag skating while Russian. Sam: Exactly. It’s super frustrating because, like I said,
they have literally all of the technical ability to be the number one pair in the world. Easily. They have great skating skills, they have
the jumps when they land them – unfortunately Evgenia did not land her jumps here very well. But then there’s just music playing and
they’re like, “Oh, yeah that’s the music.” But you could put anything else over it and
it wouldn’t change anything – especially, like I said, with their fun programs like
the “Candyman.” The James Brown Short Program is much better
than the “Candyman” in the face that they don’t look embarrassed doing it, but it’s
still like why are we skating to this? You guys don’t seem to particularly care
about it. It’s just kind of there. Red: We don’t like to think about “Candyman.” Sam: Yeah, no, we definitely don’t, Yogeeta: Yeah let’s never watch that ever
again. Red: Let’s move on from “Candyman.” Sam: Yeah, thankfully they have. Red: Yes thankfully they have, but I think
that’s just always going to be like that one thing that you associate them with and
you’re just like “Oh no, y’all did that.” Sam: Moving on to the silver Pair, Alisa Efimova
and Alexander Korovin, it’s kind of a similar thing where they’re not as technically strong
as Tarasova and Morosov. They’re just kind of solid. Like there’s nothing that really stands
out. But that said, we’re skating to a cover
of Imagine Dragons. Alright. I can deal with that. But we’re skating to a cover that doesn’t
change anything other than the fact that there’s a different singer, and I don’t necessarily
understand choices like that like why was this the particular version of this song you
wanted to skate to? And it had nice moments, like the exit out
of their lift was great. She continues to hold the edge out and circles
around him as he’s standing stationary and doing this really cool choreographic flair,
but other than that, you did the thing! I’m not really sure what you were saying
with the thing you did, but you did it. Or “La Strada.” Okay, you’re skating to “La Strada”
but are you skating to “La Strada” based on the movie, or are you skating to “La
Strada” based off the program by Daisuke Takahashi? Can we just find what we need to say when
we decide to do a program? They were nice, they were definitely nice,
it’s just…alright. Red: That’s how it is with most of the Russian
pairs, I’ve noticed. And sometimes even Russian Ice Dance, it’s
just formulaic. It’s just there. It happens. They did really well technically, but you
never really feel anything from it. Sam: In third, like I said, Ashley Cain and
Timothy LeDuc, who impressed me a lot in the fact that their twist has gotten so much better. It was definitely their weakest element when
Ashley came back to Pairs a couple years ago with him. She’s still a little bit tilted in the air,
but they’re getting a lot more height on it, and she’s not crashing as much going
down into the landing. Their Short Program, Yogeeta was saying she
thought Tarasova and Morosov’s Free Program was of Savchenko and Massot, but for me Cain
and LeDuc’s Short Program was like Savchenko and Massot – even down to the fact that she’s
butt-smashing into him and they’re giving off the flapper aesthetic exactly like Savchenko
and Massot’s Short Program from the Olympics last year, and then the season before that. The Free Skate was nice, if a bit snooze-y,
but I appreciate the fact that they’re changing their style because they’ve been doing fun
programs – like they’ve done the flapper aesthetic before with their Gatsby program
last year, but their costumes weren’t that great. That’s the only real, major criticism I
have. Red: I really like Cain/LeDuc because they
train 30 minutes away from where I’m from, so I’ve always had a soft spot for them. I think their Free Skate was cleaner and nicer
than their Short Program, and I think it was one of the better performances I’ve seen
from them. I know they’re a newer pair, and that they’ve
only been together for a couple of seasons, so there’s not a whole large body of work
behind them, but I think they did well with their Free Skate considering what the program
was. Sam: I have to admit that as I was listening
to their Free I was like “Where’s the Evgenia [Medvedeva] cuts?” Because all I hear is Evgenia Medvedeva’s
program to the same music still. Red: Especially in the Pairs, there was a
lot of music that I was like “Man this has been done before by such-and-such.” I mean, someone used the same music that Nathan
was using for his Free Skate this season. It seemed like there was a lot of that in
the Pairs. Sam: Just off the podium were Alexa Scimeca
Knierim and Chris Knierim, who many of you might have known made a big coaching change
coming out of the Olympic season to go and work with Aljona Savchenko. Unfortunately, they have revealed here at
Skate America that they are no longer working with her. We’re not necessarily sure why, there have
been some rumours that it was because of training intensity, but as everything stands it does
seem very amicable. That said, just based off the work that they’ve
done so far, I think it was definitely a worthwhile idea to go out there and work with her, even
if the end result wasn’t necessarily what they wanted. The programs that they have this year are
easily, again like Tarasova/Morosov, easily the best of their career. Even if their Short Program to Halsey doesn’t
necessarily work, especially when Alexa seems nervous like she did here. It’s a different style, which is exactly
what you’re looking for after an Olympic season. You’re looking to push your boundaries and
try something different and out yourself out of your comfort zone, even if it’s not necessarily
something that you’re going to use going forward. The Free, for me, was lovely. I think it really has the potential to be
something special, if they skated it clean. It builds in a really nice way that just keeps
getting bigger and bigger, and faster. Especially at the end where they go to do
the two throws back to back. If they landed those both, it would be really
nice. The bad being here that Alexa’s jumps were
off completely the entire time, and she had a really terrible fall on a triple toe, where
she doubled it out and landed straight on her hip with a thud and it was deafening. It was the kind of issues where she was behind
Chris when she was taking off and just completely slipped and wasn’t able to recover from
that, both on the Salchows in the Short Program and the solo triple toes in the free. That said, even with the mistakes here, like
I said, this whole season for them is about pushing forward and going through growing
pains, and it’s not necessarily going to be all sunshines and roses and perfect right
at the beginning of the season, so I’m looking forward to where they go from here and hoping
that they continue to work with Benoit, who was their choreographer and Aljona’s choreographer
with Bruno. And thankfully they had Mitch Moir there to
be with them and help them with the boards, and Benoit was also there working with them
during practices so they weren’t completely alone but hopefully they can get back home
to Illinois and figure it out soon. -end segment- 0:11:12 START: Men Red: Okay, onto the Men’s. We had Nathan Chen win the gold medal, that
was to be expected. In second with the silver we had Michal Brezina,
which wasn’t really expected, so that was really neat. And then bronze medal was Sergei Voronov from
Russia. He’s 31 and still doing this, I can’t
believe it. Anyways, so going back to Nathan, I really
liked his Short Program, and it actually had a somewhat decent costume considering his
costumes the last few seasons but I didn’t really feel his free program yet. I think it has potential but I think he really
needs to improve on it but, I don’t know, the music is just so one-note, I don’t know,
what do y’all think? Sam: For me, it’s not even necessarily something
he’s doing, it’s just the music. I don’t necessarily think Woodkid is, like,
the artist to pick for a figure skating program, ‘cause like you said there isn’t much
variation with how their songs go, they just stay on the one tone, which makes it especially
hard to, like, keep you engaged in the program. For things like a Free Skate where it’s
like 4 minutes of trying to keep yourself enraptured by what the skater is doing, so
even though Nathan’s doing all these really cool interesting moves, it’s not always,
like, the best to listen to, I guess. Red: Yeah, it’s hard to get into. Sam: Yeah. I loved “Caravan” though! The little hops he does out, like, stuff like
that is perfect, and he’s more engaged with it for sure. My one thing is I’m hopeful that it stays
like it was here because he performed throughout, especially when he got into the step sequence
and he had that big smile on his face and you could tell that this was something that
he really wanted to skate to, but that also happened with “Nemesis” last year— Red: “Nemesis,” yeah. Sam: It was just a little bit disappointing
to see it, as the Olympics started getting closer and closer, he started dipping more
and more out of the program because he kinda tensed up and got a little bit too nervous
so he wasn’t able to break free. But, yeah. Work on your spins a bit more, my dude, cut
your hair, do a quad toe triple toe and we’ll be good. Red: No. I disagree. I like the hair. Sam: I find it a little bit distracting, not
gonna lie. Red: It is a little distracting, and I don’t
think it fit with his costume for the Free Skate, but I really liked it with the Short
Program, I thought it was really fun—the program is really light and bouncy and his
hair was also light and bouncy. [laughter] Red: But one thing I will say that I liked
that Nathan did here at Skate America was that he didn’t do as many difficult jumps
and as a result was much cleaner than he usually is. He actually landed his triple axels, I was
so happy I was, like, crying, I was just like “he did it!” Sam: The one he did in the short was easily
the best of his career. Like, it was really nice. And like I said, like, move on, do the quad
toe triple toe and, like, pick between the Lutz and the flip for the short and we’ll
be golden. Red: But like, I was seeing, like, triples
out of him that I don’t, not triple axels, and I was like “this is new” because I’m
so used to him jumping all these quads! But I’m glad, because he was able to skate
clean, so it didn’t detract from the performance like it does when he usually just, like, falls
on a jump. But I really liked Caravan, I think it has
a lot of potential, but I’m just afraid he’s going to do the same thing that he
did with Nemesis and he’s just going to, you know, do it really well the first time
and afterward it’s just bad. But I think it has, I’m hoping that it becomes
what Nemesis had the potential to be and just becomes one of his greatest Short Programs
of all time. Sam: I do think that he grew a lot last season,
like he’s even said he was so nervous going to the Olympics but that something snapped
right before the Free Skate. I think this season that we’re going to
see a new Nathan, one that has much less pressure put on him, and I think that’s going to
be good for him overall. Yogeeta: Something that seems quite unfair
to me, though, is the inconsistent tech calling. Vincent rightfully got four underrotations
for his Free Skate, but Nathan didn’t get any calls despite having underrotations for
his quad Lutz and his triple axel. Sam: Yeah, which is especially jarring when
you have someone like Vincent Zhou who is visibly underrotating his jumps, yes, but
immediately getting called for them, when Nathan is also visibly underrotating his jumps
– maybe it’s a bit more borderline, but you can still see it. It has all the tells where he’s leaning
forward when he lands, and his free leg is coming out late, and it’s at an angle, and
it seems a little bit tight, and it’s not getting very good flow out of them, but he’s
not getting the same call. It’s a little frustrating for sure, but
he skated clean besides the underrotations. It was a clean program and he was obviously
going to get the higher PCS, there was no reason to drag Vincent down and let Nathan
get away with it – not necessarily let Nathan get away with it – obviously it has nothing
to do with Nathan if the judges call his jumps underrotated or not, but there was no reason
not to, if that makes any sense. Red: That was exciting, I think we saw a lot
of good things from Nate this weekend, despite the underrotations. Yogeeta: Okay, next onto the silver medalist,
Michal Březina, and this is his first Grand Prix medal in four seasons, since Rostelecom
2014. Sam: It’s nice to see him on a podium. I have to admit, especially since he was making
Grand Prix podiums before, but I always remember him as the guy who came fourth at Worlds a
million times, so it’s nice to say, like, “You actually got a medal this time, Břez!”,
it’s great. Also, he skated to ACDC, how could you not
love that? Yogeeta: But please get a new Free Skate costume,
my friend. Sam: Oh yeah, it’s a repeat of his costume
from last year, isn’t it? Yogeeta: It is. It’s the same costume. Sam: At least he’s not putting his hair
in that mini ponytail anymore. We can be thankful for the small things. Yogeeta: And he landed his quads! Sam: Beautifully! That Sal was great. Yogeeta: So beautiful. Sam: And last, Sergei Voronov, who had a great
Grand Prix season last year and really kinda came out of nowhere. It had been a while since he had skated that
well – made the Grand Prix Final. Unfortunately, left off the Russian European
team and Olympic team after a disappointing Free Skate at Russian Nationals, but he came
back and decided “Hey! I’m going to do a quad loop!” and it’s
pretty exciting. It’s nice to see other people, even when
they’re older, try new things – even if his quad loop was definitely underrotated
here and he does telegraph it pretty heavily, it’s very exciting to see a guy go out there
and give it a shot. Yogeeta: He’s thirty-one. What thirty-one year old is busy adding a
brand new quad? Sam: And a hard one. Most people don’t do quad loops. Yogeeta: Let’s talk about some other standouts
from the Men. First off, Julian Yee, thank you so much! I have absolutely never been more proud of
a skater than I was after Julian’s Short Program. That was stunning, spectacular, I don’t
know how many more words I can say, but it was a standout performance for me for all
of the men in this competition. He is the first Malaysian skater to get a
Grand Prix assignment – and he has two, we’re going to see him again at Rostelecom – and
the first Malaysian skater to land that gorgeous quad Sal. Ah, I’m so excited for his future. Red: It was really good to see a small fed
skater come out and do that well, especially from Malaysia. I think he’s said before, when he first
started skating there was literally one rink in the entire country, so to see him come
out is really great. Yogeeta: I don’t know if you guys are aware,
but they did a documentary on him on the Olympic Channel before the Olympics and it talked
about the struggles he faced, how he trained in a mall. He actually has a really great federation
and they support him really well, but he struggled for the costs and everything. Red: There’s just not a lot of financial
support for him so seeing him being able to do all of this stuff despite that is really
amazing. Yogeeta: One thing that frustrates me a lot
is small federation skaters do not get the PCS scores they deserve. Most of Julian’s PCS scores were in the
6s and in the 7s and he definitely put out a performance I think deserved – at the very
least in Performance and Interpretation – in the 8s. I’m really frustrated with how PCS, in general,
are scored. Honestly, they just need to do better. Sam: Yeah, it’s definitely frustrating when
you see somebody like Julian give his all and be incredible and have decent skating
skills and then get a little bit buried in program components and be behind somebody
like Vincent – which, not to bring Vincent down, but…doesn’t have the best skating
skills, and probably isn’t giving as much of an outward, emotional performance as Julian
did here – get ahead when maybe he shouldn’t. Yogeeta: Also, what on earth was going on
with the technical panel? They were calling flip edges everywhere. Sam: Where they didn’t need to be! Yogeeta: Yeah. Julian’s flip was given an unclear edge
call and it looked perfectly fine to me. It looked inside, it was normal, and that
unclear edge call made him go down from second to third. Sam: Yeah which is really unfortunate. I think in the entire event, one person didn’t
get a call on a flip, and it was Alexei Bychenko. And there were plenty of flips that were perfectly
fine. Like, Nathan’s quad flip, I understand that
can be a little bit borderline, but most of the time he’s okay. This is weird, guys – maybe we should relearn
what a flip edge is? Or explain to everyone else what a flip edge
is so we’re not calling every single jump in an entire event? Yogeeta: Or maybe start looking at the Lutzes
instead? Sam: Yeah! Those too, that’d be great – let’s do
both. Red: Checking all those calls takes so much
more time and they literally shortened the mens’ free skate in order to shorten the
event, but then you’re taking more time doing all of these calls that probably don’t
really need to be reviewed. Sam: Yeah and then saying, hey, you’re wrong,
but it’s like…were they? Was that edge wrong? Are we sure? Yogeeta: Are we sure? Speaking of people who have lots of technical
issues…Vincent. Red: Yeah. Yogeeta: Vincent did remarkably better here
than he did at US Classic. Remarkably better. But he had an under-rotation call on nearly
every jump. Sam: It was justified. It wasn’t an under-rotation call where you’re
scratching your head thinking, ‘mm, I don’t know about that,’ and then you see the replays
and you’re like, ‘oh, okay.’ These were, I’m watching the program, I’m
engaged in what’s going on, and I’m seeing you under-rotate every single jump. Every one! Especially in his short program, you could
see every single jump – you’re twisting your boot around to get it around because
you’re landing on the ice before you need to and not checking out soon enough. And it’s really upsetting when you see a
skater like that, where, yeah we all know you have under-rotation issues – and he has
said he is working very hard to fix them – but then you have a coach like Tom Zakrajsek,
who is just calling foul everywhere and saying that the judging panel is wrong, and there’s
no way, and they’re being too harsh. And it’s like, Tom…maybe take a step back,
and instead of yelling at the judges who are just telling you what you need to work on,
maybe own up to it, and just go back to the USOC and work on it and work on it and don’t
say anything until it’s better. Because you’re not doing yourself any favors
to just be railing against the system, when these are obvious issues that need to be solved. Red: Well if separate tech panels are all
giving the same exact rulings, that should tell you something about the jumps. Like, if they keep getting called under-rotated
and it’s different tech panels every time, that means they’re probably all being under-rotated. Yogeeta: Honestly, I wish that Vincent would
get a different jump coach and not deal with Tom Z. Red: Especially for Vincent, who’s a skater
who definitely relies more on his technical than his PCS. You need to have a good jump coach if you’re
going to rely on your technicals. Sam: And even then, it’s not like his programs
are bad. I’m not necessarily a big fan of his “Exogenesis”
short program, just because I think that is Jeremy Abbott’s music and nobody else should
be skating to it, but the free program is really nice. Yeah, I’m looking for some banging on some
drums a la Boyang, but the step sequence at the end was really nice. I liked it – it was engaging. He is obviously trying – it’s not like he’s
just phoning it in and just doing jumps. There is some effort there. It’s not always perfect because like we
said, his skating skills are not the best, so maybe take some time. Lower your technical content for a little
bit and work on your skating skills. And when your jumps are where they need to
be to be able to pull off all of that work, bring it back. It’s okay. You have four years. You’re young. Do the work now so you can be exceptional
later. Yogeeta: Especially since he is still skating
right off from a back injury. Sam: And knee problem – his knee was screwed
up at Worlds. Take the rest while you can. It doesn’t come very often. Yogeeta: Lower the technical content, my dude. Improve your skating skills, improve your
choreography, improve your execution. And then you can up your content again. Sam: And if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t
work. You’re still better off doing things great
instead of doing things okay. Red: I was also distracted by the fact that
Vincent used music Boyang used just last season. I was like, this sounds super familiar, and
then I placed it and I was like he did this last season why are you doing the same exact
thing. I was just like, whatever – I don’t know,
that was just me. I was a little picky. Yogeeta: There’s so much other Chinese music
out there – do we need to skate to “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon”? Is this the only generic Chinese music they
have? Red: I will say one thing – just with this
men’s event this year, you could tell that the whole going from 4 and a half minutes
to 4 minutes in the free skate was a lot for a lot of them. I saw, I think Alexei was panting a lot right
after he finished skating, there were a lot of skaters that were just panting as soon
as they finished because they’re having to cram all these jumps into such a short
amount of time. Sam: I’m not as critical as everybody else
is on it being such a crime that it happened, I think it’s just a learning curve. They want to keep doing all of the technical
content they did before, so they’re not willing to sacrifice the fact that maybe their
stamina is just not up to it yet. Once we get into the swing of things, it becomes
a norm that skaters are growing up doing, instead of “we’re changing this now and
you have to learn how to deal with it”. It’s not going to be as much of an issue
of seeing all of these skaters falling over or Yuzuru [Hanyu] at 2012 Worlds needing an
inhaler in the kiss and cry. Yogeeta: We’re just going to see that happen
to Yuzuru all over again this season, then. Sam: Well, we already have. He’ll get there. They’ll all get there eventually, it’s
just – you’ve got to get used to it and it’s early. By the end of the season, they’ll be hopefully
fine. Yogeeta: Some other shoutouts from this competition,
Alexei’s [Bychenko] step sequence in his “Dracula” Free Skate is amazing. I love it. Sam: The blood on the costume is a nice Alexander
Majorov tribute. For those who don’t know, Majorov had a
pretty bad nosebleed at Rostelecom Cup in 2016. Yogeeta: Also, shoutout to Matteo Rizzo for
landing his first quad toe in competition. Once again, thank you Jimmy Ma for taking
us to the club. -end segment- 0:26:20 START: Ice Dance Yogeeta: Next, let’s move on to Ice Dance. Our medalists here with the gold, Madison
Hubbell and Zachary Donohue. In silver, we have Charlene Guignard and Marco
Fabbri. And in bronze, we have Tiffani Zagorski and
Jonathan Guerreiro. Hubbell and Donohue, my favorite team! Did you hear the sarcasm in that voice? Red: They’re the top American team right
now since the Shibs [Maia Shibutani and Alex Shibutani] are sitting out a season and [Madison]
Chock and [Evan] Bates are out for at least their first Grand Prix event, but I don’t
know, I’ve never really been impressed by their skating. It just seems very… You know, it’s there. Yogeeta: I found their tango to be pretty
generic. I love the music they chose, but I felt very
little actual emotional connection from them and they didn’t seem like they were dancing
a tango. Sam: The problem with tangos is that it requires
you to look at each other. (Hosts laugh). There wasn’t a lot of that going on. I’ve watched enough Dancing with the Stars
that I at least got the base of that down. For me, I have always liked Madi and Zach
in that you can see their potential. They’re great skaters. A couple of years ago, when they hadn’t
finally gotten up to the level where they were actually competing for major medals,
the thing that made them special was that they were connected with each other. They would look at each other and you could
feel an on-ice chemistry between them, but since the end of last season a lot of that’s
been gone and it’s really disappointing. I’m not really sure what they were thinking
skating to “Romeo and Juliet”. I don’t know what their thought process
was behind that. If you’re choosing a program that’s built
on natural romantic chemistry and you no longer have that natural romantic chemistry, what
exactly are you left with? Why are we making this choice? Red: That’s something that really paid off
last season. That was something that commentators were
commenting on, they were like, “Wow, look at them, they’ve got this chemistry.” And they did that – I don’t know how to
describe it other than “sexy” – program last season, they were all over each other,
you could feel it. I do agree with that, but I don’t feel it
this season. Yogeeta: It’s very much been their style. They very much have done a lot of those sexy,
romantic programs. They’re very strong ice dancers individually,
they have great skating skills, great edgework, but I feel like they just don’t work well
together in a romantic sense. They should take this opportunity to diversify
and try a program that they’ve never done before in a different style. It might be a struggle for them in the beginning,
but it will make them better performers and better skaters and make me potentially actually
like them. Romeo and Juliet is a terrible choice. Sam: It just feels uninspired, which unfortunately
sometimes is the tale of their career. They make one really good choice and then
they don’t know what to do with it and then they take two steps backward. You’re left sitting there like, “Everything
about your partnership should work. Everything is written there on paper, you
guys just have to figure it out.” Sometimes it feels like they don’t know
what to do with it and it’s disappointing, especially now when they’re in a position
to be like, “We’re number two in the world. We’re solidly number two in the world, that’s
what every judge has told us, let’s take it and run with it.” It feels like they were just like, “Alright,
we’re here now, let’s keep going forward”, when there are other teams like [Alexandra]
Stepanova and [Ivan] Bukin who really came running out of the gate like, “We’re here
now. Alright, Hubbell and Donohue, what are you
going to do about that?”. Yogeeta: Yeah. I think in general Romeo and Juliet programs
– their music cut isn’t really good. I never want to hear a Romeo and Juliet voiceover
that isn’t “Juliet” [Referring to Junhwan Cha’s voiceover] ever again. Sam: Skaters out there, voiceover is for camp
and very Russian programs. It’s not for you when you’re trying to
be serious. It doesn’t work as well. Red: I think for Hubbell and Donohue, they
really do have that opportunity – especially with how empty the Ice Dance field is right
now – to make a move for the very top, but with these performances, I don’t see them
being able to do that. They have to improve from this or they won’t
be able to do that. Yogeeta: They definitely need to take this
opportunity, seize it and hold it, because the Shibs are coming back next season. If they want to remain the top US Ice Dance
team, they have to prove that they deserve to be the top US Ice Dance team. Moving on to our silver medalists, the Italians
Charlene and Marco. Charlene and Marco are the top Italian Ice
Dance team now that Anna [Cappellini] and Luca [Lanotte] have retired, which – saying
those words makes me so sad (Red: Yeah). I really liked their Rhythm Dance. It was really nice. It was generic, but it was nice. I want to see them do more with it, but we’ll
see what happens as the season progresses. I did really like their Free Dance and coming
from me, who hates La La Land programs with a passion… I actually really enjoyed it and the cuts
that they had. It was a very well done program. Sam: You could tell that they wanted to skate
to it, which – they admitted freely that they wanted to do it last year but decided not
to, because Chock and Bates had originally said they were, and they were like, “We’re
not going to do the same.” So when they announced this season that they
were finally skating to “La La Land”, they were like, “Nobody else can skate to
it, guys, we get it now.” It was really nice. I enjoyed that about that. You could feel that they were really passionate
about it and it really suits them. I never particularly found them that engaging
– they did that one, ah… What were they skating to when they had the
piano dress? Does anybody else remember that? It was two years ago, for their Free Dance
she was wearing a piano dress and he had a matching shirt. Yogeeta: I remember this, but I can’t remember
what the program was. Sam: They would do weird stuff like that or
when they did their “Schindler’s List” program and they were wearing literal dirty
costumes and it was too real, guys, don’t be so literal with it, please. Don’t skate to “Schindler’s List”
and do Holocaust programs if you can avoid it, but when you do them, don’t dress like
you’re covered in ash. So they’ve never necessarily been the team
for me, but this is nice. I enjoyed them a lot. Red: One thing I’ll say about them is that
I’m not usually huge into La La Land programs, just because they happen a lot, I don’t
know, I’ve never been into them, but I actually really liked their program. I thought it was really good. Yogeeta: In bronze, we have Tiffani Zagorski
and Jonathan Guerreiro, who I’ve always been a fan of. They’ve been the quirky Russian Ice Dance
team. I love her hair, her hair is fabulous. They were the first team to hit all key elements
in the second half of the Tango Romantica pattern, so go them! Sam: That pattern is so difficult. I do not envy any of these teams. It just goes on forever and it’s so intricate,
so for them to be able to get a level 4 – and then later on, [Lorraine] McNamara and [Quinn]
Carpenter to get a level 4 on both sets of it – is very, very impressive this early in
the season. Yogeeta: It blows my mind. Their Free Dance is to “Blues for Klook”
and they haven’t had much time to practice because Tiffani was injured, so I was very
impressed with their showing here. I especially love their straight line lift
in their Free Dance. Red: I think for Zagorski and Guerreiro – a
lot of Russian Dance teams will just go to the formula, but I think they actually have
some passion for what they’re doing and so I don’t get that same vibe from them. Yogeeta: They’re a quirky team. I’ve followed them for a few seasons and
I think they’ve always been on the edge of being a top Russian Ice Dance team, so
I’d love to see them actually break into being one of the top teams. Sam: They have a nice opportunity now that
[Ekaterina] Bobrova and [Dmitri] Soloviev are not competing, so of the main senior Russian
teams, it’s really just them and Stepanova and Bukin, so we’ll see who comes up from
the Junior ranks. I believe the [2018] Junior World champions
are Seniors now, so it’ll be interesting. I think they have a good shot at being the
solid number two team for right now. Yogeeta: An additional shoutout. Fear and Gibson’s free dance was amazing. (Sam: I really liked it) I don’t even care
what score they got, it was great. It was so entertaining. It was super fun. They messed up their twizzles. I personally don’t like teams that don’t
have great twizzles but I didn’t even care, it was great. Sam: Like who cares about a twizzle when you’re
giving me the earth, wind and fire? It’s all I need, you’ve given me everything,
thanks guys! Yogeeta: Also their choreographic slide element
was probably my favourite of all the slides. Sam: Yep, I agree. A lot of them are a little bit unoriginal
where it’s like ‘oh we have to do this thing now’ whereas they were just like super
engaging and great. Yogeeta: So yeah I’m super excited to see
how they improve as the season goes and they’re one of my new favourites. Red: So I really liked Manta and Johnson’s
free dance. It was sassy and it looked like they were
having a blast while they were doing so it was super duper fun to watch. It really makes you wish the US field wasn’t
so saturated with ice dance teams because I’d really like to get to see more of them
at the international level but the US is just so saturated with the ice dance teams – like
Japan is in the ladies division and like Russia… I just wish I could give them all the spots,
that’s like…my wish (laughs). Sam: Yeah it’s so nice to see that they
were able to get two international assignments this year because that free dance…it’s
such a crowd pleaser and it’s so fun and they are icons and I just love them to pieces Yogeeta: Yeah they’re great, they have such
great acrobatic elements too. Like their lifts are phenomenal – I think
they have some of my favourite lifts of all of the ice dancers with fantastic entries
and exits. It’s great. Sam: Thank you Christopher Dean for choreographing
this iconic program. -end segment- 36:50 START: Ladies Sam: And moving onto our last event, we’ve
got the ladies. In first place, queen of my life, Satoko Miyahara. In second place, actual sunshine Kaori Sakamoto. And in third, rounding out the program, was
Sofia Samodurova. Guys…what is there to say about Satoko Miyahara? Yogeeta: Satoko Miyahara is a goddess. Sam: The personification of everything good
skating is. Red: You know that part in Mean Girls when
they go off about Regina George and how great she is? That’s how I feel about Satoko, just like…
she’s great (laughs). Sam: She’s perfect–she’s everything–
okay, she’s not perfect, even I have to admit, her jumps are not the best but they’re
improving (Yogeeta: Yes!). They look ten times better than they did at
US Classic, they look five million times better than they did at The Ice. She’s not slipping on the takeoff of her
lutz anymore, she landed a Salchow?? Like, we are living. Yogeeta: Like god bless Ghislain [Briand]
for all of his magic jump training. I love him I love her, I love everything. Sam: The programs are so good. The short program is…a Michelle [Kwan] program
come to life once again. It’s got the spiral into the twizzles right
back into her layback spin at the end. The choreographic jump she does going back
with her arms flourishing out before her double Axel like, everything is just perfect and
beautiful and great. The tango for Invierno Porteno she’s doing
for her free program is just so nuanced and intricate. The cut of the music is excellent and she
understands it perfectly and I could talk about her forever. Yogeeta: Satoko Miyahara just gave us a masterclass
on figure skating at Skate America. And she said she still has stuff to work on. This was perfection to me so I don’t even
know what more she can do but she’s definitely going to improve every time that we see her
in the future and every time we’re just going to be like “wow, you’re perfect.” Sam: Even when she doesn’t hit her jumps
I think she’s perfect, I could watch her forever and ever. Yogeeta: And ever, I could watch her forever. Just always watch Satoko Miyahara. Red: Didn’t they use her for the textbook,
basically, for some of the jumps or something? Sam: Oh no, it was her layback spin. Red: Yes, her layback spin, that’s what
it was. I know they use some of her elements for examples
for other skaters so that just shows you how good she is right there. Yogeeta: Yes, her layback spin is perfection. The judge that gave her +2 on her layback
spin in the short program, we need to talk. Sam: We also need to talk about the fact she
did not receive any 9s in components in her short program or the free skate, which was
a choice. Yogeeta: I will say they were lenient on her
in her free skate on some of her jumps. Some of them did look a little under-rotated
but she didn’t get any under-rotations called. Sam: Uh yeah, the second lutz was for sure
under. The Flip I believe was close but they definitely
should’ve checked her edge on that. That said, I can’t help but think that it’s
more unfortunate when a skater with bad tech gets robbed in PCS than it is when a skater
with good tech gets… where am I going with this? It’s just so unfair to see somebody who
does everything right choreographically and performance-wise and to see them not get the
marks they deserve… (sighs) drives me nuts. Yogeeta: She should be getting 9s in performance
and composition and interpretation. She should be getting 10s, to be honest. Sam: Oh easily, easily. 9.5 should be where you start with her. That’s the base, that’s where she is all
of the time and you go down from there. That’s her wheelhouse. Her skating, her edge quality is so great
– she can be a little bit slow – but just her pure stroking is beautiful, her skating
skills are there too… I don’t know, I just love her, I literally
get lost for words thinking about her because I could talk about every little bit of everything
she does and point out why this is textbook– Yogeeta: One thing I should mention is that
her spiral sequence in her free skate is absolute perfection (Sam: Oh yep). Like I could watch that on repeat for hours. Red: I mean I’m not a huge ladies stan,
I don’t watch the ladies a whole lot but I really do like watching Satoko skate. I actually feel emotions from her which is
amazing, like there are so many skaters out there that can’t do that anymore and it’s
sad, but I really do enjoy watching her skate, even though I don’t watch ladies as much
as I do the mens. Yogeeta: If there’s one lady you should
be watching, Red– Red: It should be Satoko! (laughs) Yogeeta: So you’re doing the right thing I did see the entire ladies event for Skate
America but I don’t know, if I had to pick I usually watch the mens. But I do enjoy watching her skate. Something about the Japanese ladies – so many
of them are just so good at conveying emotion, being smooth, being graceful. I just-I really appreciate that Yogeeta: If only they got scored for that. Red: Oh, I wish! Yogeeta: Let’s move onto the other queen
of Japan, Kaori Sakamoto. I love Kaori, she has some of the best technical
skills of all the Japanese ladies. Like where Satoko is the best in program components,
I think Kaori is the best technical jumper of all the Japanese ladies. Sam: Her 2A-3T-2T is money. I could watch her jump that all day. Yogeeta: I just have so much concerns about
her packaging. Her short program felt like a junior program
to me, it doesn’t seem like it’s pushing her forwards as a skater. Like she did it, she did it well and it was
amazing but at the same time, it doesn’t seem like anything new for her and it honestly
feels like a step back for her, program-wise. Sam: Yeah the issue is that she’s not a
light, delicate skater and it’s a light, delicate program. She’s powerful and barrels forward when
she’s on the ice. You can visibly see her speed as she’s hustling
back from each corner into jumps. And it’s like “okay, so we’ve got this
great, powerful skater and we’re putting her in this light princess type program.” And it’s like “maybe that’s not the
direction we should be heading.” And I kind of feel the same way about her
Piano free skate – it’s not as bad because that program does build pretty effectively
but she’s not the light and delicate type, she’s the forceful, in-your-face type with
the way she skates. And she’s so expressive – especially when
she’s doing well, that smile is just radiating and she’s pure sunshine, and I wish they
could find something that fits that. I think somebody like Shae-Lynn Bourne would
do wonders for her. Yogeeta: Please give me a Shae-Lynn Bourne
program for Kaori. I would die. I would pay Shae-Lynn money to choreograph
a program for Kaori. Sam: We will help with the fees if you want
to hop over to Canada Kaori, we got you Red: We’re starting a GoFundMe (laughs)
(Yogeeta: Immediately!) to send Kaori to Canada to get a Shae-Lynn Bourne program. Yogeeta: I will say I do disagree about her
free skate. I think her free skate fits her very well. It does build and I think it showcases more
of her maturity. And she is a powerful skater but her jumps,
she lands them so softly I think this program very much emphasises that she’s such a good
jumper and how her landings are so exquisite. Red: I love watching her skate because she
always looks like she’s having the time of her life out there. I don’t know, something about skaters enjoying
what they’re doing while they’re performing just brings a whole other element to a program
and she always seems like she’s truly enjoying skating and being out there. Sam: What I will say is girl, just hold your
spiral positions just a tad bit longer to really emphasise your extension going out
into them. It seems like something really small but just
that extra millisecond does wonders for the overall effect of those moves. Yogeeta: She was rightfully called on her
flutz in the free and I’m happy they actually called it and didn’t miscall her flip again
because her flip is exquisite. Sam: That was a choice. Again, ISU, what happened with flips? Are we okay? Is everybody sure what a flip is? Yogeeta: Once again, I just, 67 PCS – please
explain to me. ISU, I need an essay explaining to me exactly
why she only got 67. Red: You know those tests you take in school
where it’s like you put your answer and then you explain why, I think the ISU needs
to start having an explain why section for a lot of their scores. Yogeeta: Here’s a score, here’s a 4 paragraph
essay as to why you gave her this score. Sam: Yeah, exactly. Give them the guidelines for PCS and GOE and
have them mark off exactly what they saw in each jump that we’re like “Yes, this is
a +4. Explain.” Or with Hubbell and Donohue’s twizzles,
in the Rhythm Dance the second set was completely off (Yogeeta: It was!) but it got really high
GOE! Explain, judges – explain! Red: There’s just no accountability there,
and that makes it just… ugh. Yogeeta: Well actually I think we just solved
it, instead of them assigning scores, they do checkboxes and then the computer generates
the score based on the checkboxes. Sam and I could talk about Japanese Ladies
for an entire podcast. Sam: Give me the ability and I will monologue. Yogeeta: Like we just have an entire separate
podcast called “Japanese Ladies” and we could just talk about them for hours. And we have in bronze Sofia Samadurova, who’s
making her Grand Prix debut here with a bronze medal at Skate America – Congratulations to
her. I applaud her mental fortitude. She had to perform first in the Short, and
then she performed last in the Free – having to go after Kaori Sakamoto and Satoko Miyahara
[who] gave two stunning, masterful performances. Sam: That said, do we really need a “Burlesque”
for a sixteen-year-old? Yogeeta: No. The answer is no, and she needs better packaging. Sam: I do like the dress though, I think that
looks very nice on her. It’s definitely not for a “Burlesque”
program, but it works for a “Burlesque” program for a sixteen-year-old. If we’re going to do it, at least get a
nice, age-appropriate dress that works. Yogeeta: This is true. I thought her Short Program was nice. But that was it, it was nice. I think she definitely needs to work on her
performance and her maturity. Sam: Yeah, she’s another one that’s just
very solid at what she does but maybe not necessarily a stand-out. She did what she needed to do here, and was
able to get on a podium at her second major Senior competition – and that’s really great. Especially after a great early season last
year where she won two Junior Grand Prix’s, and made it to the Final. So it’s nice to see her continuing her early
season success. There are obvious moments where she’s trying
to bring out and project, especially in the “Burlesque” program, she has a lovely
smile and she’s obviously trying to move her body in a way that is projecting what
her face can’t. I think the issue is that she needs to focus
on the jumps right now, especially when she’s trying the Tano, which isn’t necessarily
the best, aesthetically pleasing Tano position. As I have said before, you want your arm straight
up so your center of gravity is off, whereas she’s kind of doing the hook kind of Tano. There’s definitely an attempt, it’s just
not hitting all the key points, and that’s hard to do. The reason why skaters, like Satoko, who can
perform throughout an entire program and never let up are exceptional is because it’s hard. Red: I definitely liked her skating a lot
more than some of the other Russian skaters I’ve seen in the past. You can tell that she really does enjoy what
she does. She ended both of her performances with a
huge smile, so that was really nice to see. But I still think there’s some of that in
there, like what you usually see from a lot of these Russian skaters is just “We go
out, we do our job, we get it done.” You know? It doesn’t feel as passionate. But I still think she did a really good job. Yogeeta: Yeah, and I definitely fell like
she’s trying and I hope to see her improve. I think she does have potential, and I really
just want to see another top Russian Lady that’s not from Eteri [Tutberidze]. Sam: Yep, agreed. Yogeeta: So two of our Japanese Ladies shined
today but, unfortunately, Marin Honda did not. Red: I was so sad. Marin is one of my favorite Japanese Ladies. Like I told y’all that I don’t really
watch Ladies, but I love watching Marin when she’s having a good day. But when she’s not… Oh man, it hurts. Sam: Yeah, and unfortunately she did tell
Japanese press that she had a right foot injury and that it was hard for her to land her jumps
confidently, so maybe that had something to do with it, but it just wasn’t here today. She went for her triple Lutz-triple toe combo
and everything after that was just rocky. She had an underrotation call on five of her
seven jumps, and one was completely downgraded. Yogeeta: Yeah it’s really sad because Marin
has some of the best edge work of all of the Ladies. Her edges give me life, and the fact that
she got the second lowest Skating Skills score in her Short Program blows my mind and I want
to know what the judges are seeing because we’re clearly watching two different programs. Sam: It’s the type of skater. The issue with judging Skating Skills over
a computer screen or a TV is that you can’t always judge things like speed very well,
but edge depth is something that you can. And for her it’s obvious, it’s natural,
and it’s smooth like butter and it’s just… what’s going on here? Red: Like I said, I love watching her skate,
she has some really strong Skating Skills and she’s so entertaining to watch. I just wish that she could fix some of those
tech elements with the underrotations. I just really hope that she can come back
stronger later on in the season. I know she was having issues this Free Skate. Sam: What I will say is that I want her to
work with Ashley Wagner for like two days on how to perform her Short Program, because
she’s very smiley and she’s doing her usual kind of cutesy thing and that’s not
what this program is for, Marin. This program is gritty, and like edgy. But like not in a biker bar edgy, which is
what she was going for with the leather – it’s like a ripped jeans and t-shirt, like a white
t-shirt, kind of edgy. Like the color red she has for this dress
works perfectly, but it needs to be stripped of all the embellishments. Maybe do like an off the shoulder kind of
thing, make the skirt a little bit shorter but keep the asymmetrical cut of it, and then
get the sass out and it would be an incredible program. It still is an incredible program, and she’s
doing a really good job, but she’s not pushing her boundaries performative wise yet and I
want to see that from her. Red: Yeah, I definitely think that she was
probably given that program on purpose to push her out of her comfort zone, and I think
she did good but she needs to work on being out of her comfort zone. Yogeeta: Yeah, I definitely also think she
really needs to work on her nerves. This happened all throughout last season,
the second she fell she just fell apart for the rest of the program. When she skates clean, she’s great, nothing
can stop her. But the second she makes a mistake it’s
just downhill, and this is a mental battle that she needs to face. And when she does she’ll definitely enter
the ranks of the top of the top Japanese Ladies- Sam: Not even just the Japanese Ladies, but
there’s no question that she has the talent and ability to be on a World podium. Red: Definitely. Yogeeta: Yes, I agree. But for now, she’s just going to be skirting
that edge because she doesn’t have that mental fortitude yet. Red: But she’s young, she’s got time. Yogeeta: So I definitely hope that this is
something that she and her coaches are working on. Sam: Definitely. She’s another one, like the Knierim’s,
where it’s going to take some time. She’s reworking her entire repertoire and
moving over and changing her living situation. It’s not always going to be sunshine and
roses with her when you’re completely overhauling your skating like that. Red: I almost wish that Nathan was still at
Lakewood so he could give her some tips on mental fortitude since he literally went through
that last season. Sorry, here I am bringing up Nathan again. Sam: It’s okay, we talked about Yuzu like
four times. (hosts laugh) Yogeeta: Well this is also something like
Ashley Wagner [Red: That’s true.] could definitely help with if she was still there
at Lakewood as well. Just call up Ashley and ask her to come by
for like a week. Sam: Or even Adam [Rippon]! Adam had to go through a lot. There are lots of resources she has there,
or maybe even get a high-performance coach that can help her, be there with her and talk
her through – or like a sports psychologist, that’s the word I’m looking for. Get a sports psychologist and have somebody
there to talk to you and work through all of it. Yogeeta: Let’s move on to Bradie Tennell,
who did not have her best showing here after a successful showing at Autumn Classic a few
weeks ago. I applaud her for her decision to try to increase
her technical score, but adding the triple Lutz-triple loop combo is not the way to go,
my friend. Sam: The issue with her triple Lutz-triple
loop isn’t necessarily that you shouldn’t try new things, it’s that it’s not a good
combo for her. She tends to land super heavy and bear down
on her skate when she’s trying to spring back up for the loop, and that spring isn’t
there and you’re just looking at her stall on the ice for a bit. The thing with triple Lutz-triple loops is
that all loop combos are pre-rotated in the second half, but there’s always a level
of acceptability for it to be necessary to be able to get up into the air. Hers is passed that edge, where she’s pre-rotating
it too much and unable to generate the momentum to lift up, and then she’s also underrotating
when she comes back down. So it’s not necessarily the most aesthetically
pleasing or technically correct way to go, and she had lots of issues with underrotations
here, so that’s just kind of like compounded on it all, even though she’s trying to add
on and do two Lutzes, and do two triple-triple’s. It’s just not all working yet. Red: When it comes to Bradie, she tries to
skate to these songs that have a lot of passion and energy, like her Short Program this season
is like that. But she just can’t seem to carry it. I can’t feel any of the emotions from the
songs that she skates to carried over into her movements. It’s just kind of disappointing to watch
because you do expect those kinds of emotions to be reflected in the movements, but to me,
her movements are very blocky, they don’t feel as graceful as a lot of the other skaters. Yogeeta: Yeah, she’s very stiff when she
skates, and she doesn’t really hold herself. She doesn’t extend as well, she doesn’t
hold her positions so it makes it seem like she’s just going through the movements and
not really performing as well. I also don’t think her costumes are helping. I thought her costumes at Autumn Classic were
better, I don’t know why she changed them. Sam: My main issue with Bradie when it comes
to performance is a similar issue I have with Hubbell and Donohue at this point. It’s that she doesn’t to know why she’s
skating to the music, or that it was particularly inspiring for her. It definitely seems like it was told to her
by a choreographer or a coach that this is what she was skating to. I think it would it really benefit her to
find somebody that could work with her on a weekly basis and explore different opportunities
and figure out what exactly it is that she wants to skate to. Whether it’s at the beginning of each season
and like make a list of all the things that she wants to do and have her choreographer
make a list of the things he or she thinks would be good for her, and mix and match and
get her to a place where she’s taking ownership of what she’s doing. And then have that person be able to consistently
work on her and get her to a point where she learns how to be more fluid in her movement
and [not be] so rigid. Because she is flexible, you can see it in
her spin positions. She just hasn’t been able to learn how to
cross that over into her basic choreography. Red: She just needs to work on her Performance
Components. She’s very consistent in her jumps for the
most part, I mean obviously she does have some tech issues, but she’s pretty consistent. She just can’t carry the song, and then
they keep giving her these passionate songs and I’m like… come on, y’all. Yogeeta: I will say that her “Romeo and
Juliet” cut isn’t the worst cut I’ve ever heard. But I definitely don’t feel any of the passion
that you need to perform to “Romeo and Juliet.” Sam: Yeah, for all intents and purposes, it’s
a fine program. There’s nothing wrong with it. There’s much higher quality than what she
was skating to last year, and you can see that even in the way that she’s carrying
it. It’s just not there yet, and she has the
ability to get there. I don’t think she’s a lost cause, I think
she definitely has potential, she just needs to find the right person to help bring it
out. Red: Shoutout to Megan Wessenberg. This was a great Grand Prix debut for especially
because she was really unknown internationally before this. I had never seen her skate before but she
really impressed me. I was just kind of like “Where was US Figure
Skating hiding her?” She came out and did really well, especially
with the state of the US Ladies right now, like where was she? I just really liked her performances, they
just surprised me. Yogeeta: She seems like she really enjoys
skating, I love seeing people be happy. Sam: She’s very fast. She really motors it into all of her jumps
and that triple toe-triple toe is just money. It’s so nice. Especially the one in the short program, it
was just done so well. She’s got great height and distance on it,
which I believe is new. I don’t think she had a triple-triple last
year, because I do remember her from Nationals. This was really impressive, it was nice to
see somebody else to skate internationally. Red: And she just seemed really happy the
whole time. Like I said before, I love seeing skaters
happy when they skate because it makes me feel happy. Sam: Also we just want to say that we hope
Loena Hendrickx is okay, she unfortunately had to withdraw after the Short Program due
to illness. -end segment- 59:26 START: Shoutout Of The Week Yogeeta: So Shoutout Of The Week goes to Fanasty
Skating, which is US Figure Skating’s yearly Grand Prix Fantasy Skating where you pick
your teams and hope that they do well, and the winner with the most points gets tickets
to US Nationals. So, my team is dead. Red: Mine is too. Yogeeta: I think all of our teams are dead. But it was fun while it lasted, Red: Shoutout to everyone whose teams are
dead. Sam: Shoutout to everyone who successfully
picked some good teams though. You did a great job. Yogeeta: I will say that I at least continue
to have faith in Satoko Miyahara, and I picked her as my Ladies choice. Red: I did too. I did really well on the A picks, but B and
C were… they were messy. Sam: I did [well] in Dance. Everything else was questionable. I got Tarasova/Morosov, I got Nathan, I got
Hubbell/Donohue, and after that it’s just a sharp cliff down for Morisi [Kvitelashvili]. Red: I picked Kevin [Reynolds]. Mistakes were made. Sam: I had Loena! I had Loena! Yogeeta: I had Loena too. Red: I did too. Sam: I had Loena, Marin and Bradie. From my A pick for Bradie, B pick Marin and
my C pick was Loena. Great time! -end segment- 1:00:48 START: Outro Yogeeta: Thank you for listening, we hope
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Episode 14 – Let’s Move On From Candyman (Skate America 2018)

6 thoughts on “Episode 14 – Let’s Move On From Candyman (Skate America 2018)

  • October 23, 2018 at 11:03 am

    Time codes for this episode

    Pairs 2:10
    Mens 11:06
    Ice Dance 26:20
    Ladies 36:50

  • October 23, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Can you ladies put the subtitle becouse im not so good in listening , for me you guys speak to fast , thankyou

  • October 23, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Julian has a go Fund me Page.. 😉

  • October 24, 2018 at 3:46 am

    I love hearing you guys get more real (and not so PC) about your opinions.

  • October 24, 2018 at 3:09 pm

    Thanks for a great recap as always. One thing about Marin Honda. I think she's at a point where her innate talent only won't sail her through anymore. I hope the "fire" in her re-ignites to be the best she can be. I didn't see her joy even when she was smiling during her programs. Also, you guys convince me how great Satoko M. has been. It took me a while to be amazed by her skating (partly b/c of her jumps), but how you guys describe her, it really make sense. Great artistic eyes, all of you!

  • October 24, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    Thank you so MUCH for talking about Julian!!! he's so amazing!!! So proud of him!!

    Julian Yee 17:35


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