Like me, Alex has platform pedals, and he
just can’t keep his spin going on this steep climb. He pushes his way up, and then gets caught
mid pedal stroke somewhere along the way. Brian sits atop the hill with a smug clipless
grin. Despite the fact that he finds amusement in
seeing Alex suffer, he takes a moment to save him from falling off a cliff. Both Brian and Randall cleaned this steep
climb on Slickrock trail. Aside from being good riders, they’re both
clipped in. This is definitely the preferred setup for
climbing. Among the many benefits of riding clipless
is the ability to pull up on your pedals in addition to pushing down, maintaining power
transfer through your entire pedal stroke. Side note for the newbs, clipless refers to
being clipped in. I know it’s confusing. As someone who runs platform pedals most of
the time, I still can’t argue with the benefits of clipless. After adjusting such a setup, your shoes will
always remain in the perfect position while riding. It’s also nice that on really bumpy terrain
clipless pedals keep your feet where they’re supposed to be. So they’re secure, functional, and efficient. Of course, platform pedals are not without
their benefits either. Anyone who wants to throw some tricks into
their riding should consider platform pedals, and if you take a lot of risks they may improve
your chances of survival. For me, that’s the main selling point. Consider what could have happened to me here,
or here if I couldn’t unclip on time. Add that to the fact that they’re better
for jumping around, and platform pedals are definitely for me. Still, I’m making tradeoffs in other areas. Brian is scheming. As Alexander catches his breath, Brian runs
down the hill to execute the ultimate one upper—showing up Alex on his own bike. So, let me get this straight; the rider wearing
SPD shoes is going to do this climb on platform pedals? You can see Brian using his heels to avoid
slipping on his cleats. It’s ironic that the clipless rider actually
proved the climb could be done on platforms. I do think riding clipless can teach you how
to spin better, and spinning is what you should be doing, not mashing. You can see how Brian keeps the pedals moving
fluidly throughout the climb. Alex could take no more. With fire in his eyes, Alex set out to put
this climb behind him. He finally cleaned it. It’s clear to see how with proper technique
you can, in fact climb just about anything on platform pedals, and it doesn’t always
take 35 tries. I did this climb first try on platform pedals,
although I took a slightly different line. Another rider on the trail, Sarah, did it
head on as her friends cheered. We then saw quite a few other riders owning
this climb on platforms. I think every rider should try platform and
clipless setups in that order. Each pedal type teaches you something different,
and they both come in handy for different types of riding. Since pedals are so easy to change, they can
be swapped before rides. Look at these pedal types not as opposing
sides, but different weapons in your mountain biking arsenal. For the rest of the day, Alex nailed every
climb he encountered. It was a matter of spinning, and technique,
not pedals and shoes. Alex didn’t blame his failure on gear—that
would have been a cop out. Instead he took responsibility for botching
this climb and committed to making it right. Having cleaned it, he became a better rider
on the spot, and that my friends, is what mountain biking dreams are made of. Thanks for riding with me today, and I’ll
see you next time.

Clips Vs. Flats on Slickrock’s Toughest Climb
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100 thoughts on “Clips Vs. Flats on Slickrock’s Toughest Climb

  • April 3, 2019 at 1:03 am
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    This is why I have hybrid pedals.

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  • April 3, 2019 at 3:23 pm
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    2:15 Seth gets rejected.

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  • April 4, 2019 at 10:33 pm
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    I agree, but kudos to Alex, Brian has like 2% body fat and is smaller in general, he's built for the climb.

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  • April 6, 2019 at 2:19 am
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    Clipless 4Ever!

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  • April 6, 2019 at 7:52 am
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    if you want to climb this you need to have some weight on the back wheel in order not to spin and also 2/3 of air in your tire

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  • April 6, 2019 at 9:40 am
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    Clipless is being clipped in? I'd rather just stick to logic and not say "clipless" when I mean to say that someone is cliped in.

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  • April 6, 2019 at 5:22 pm
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    The Lycra was the key here.

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  • April 15, 2019 at 9:32 pm
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    seths reactions to brians sucess: "f*** you! oh f*** you brian!!!"

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  • April 17, 2019 at 4:25 am
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    What if you are climbing and you get stuck and you die🤷‍♀️

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  • April 17, 2019 at 11:59 pm
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    I have the same bike in red yay

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  • April 18, 2019 at 5:38 am
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    Ride clipless on a road bike for awhile and you'll get sick spins.

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  • April 18, 2019 at 7:08 pm
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    Hi I’m on the phone with my phone and a few minutes later I have been working on the call and then call ya

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  • April 20, 2019 at 1:04 pm
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    At 20mph my chain came off and I couldn’t unclip my SPD’s, fast spin before gravity took over and I slide along the tarmac. 1 dislocated elbow, hips, knees and ankle injuries I won’t go back to them. Yes they have an advantage but also more danger. Did get 60mph on Strava then in the back of an ambulance.

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  • April 21, 2019 at 12:37 pm
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    Does anybody notice in the thumbnail the disc rotor is on the drive side and the drivetrain is on the rotor side

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  • April 21, 2019 at 3:04 pm
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    FFS, you don't push with the midle of your foot………

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  • April 22, 2019 at 1:37 am
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    Brain has better body position, over the front headset, hips in line with the bike's center of gravity, spinning fast rather than hulking the pedals.

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  • April 23, 2019 at 2:39 pm
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    Please give me a bike

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  • April 28, 2019 at 2:03 am
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    I'm really good at bailing in clipless

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  • April 28, 2019 at 8:43 pm
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    I ride platform pedals but still can’t conquer my climb in the trail I’m not blaming me I’m blaming my gear I have a 3×7 and yes I know its pretty impossible to climb hills with a 3×7 but still I push myself

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  • April 29, 2019 at 2:37 pm
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    Have you tried Power Grip straps? Might be something that works for the best of both worlds- I used to use them all the time. Granted, I am a flatland rider, so NOWHERE near the league you are in (I'm also 25 years since I was on the bike, old and fat- which is why I'm getting back on the bike!)

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  • April 29, 2019 at 9:55 pm
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    Platform pedal saved my ass today

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  • May 3, 2019 at 9:03 am
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    I feel like i doing that when i watching

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  • May 5, 2019 at 12:28 am
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    I remember that at the whole enchilada! 1:45

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  • May 5, 2019 at 12:48 pm
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    Great video but I couldn't help thinking what those 2 lines were going through the sky at 4.50

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  • May 5, 2019 at 12:52 pm
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    I don't like the idea of being clipped in and on a cliff

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  • May 6, 2019 at 12:23 am
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    he would have nailed it first try if his feet were in the right place, maybe scooping a bit might have helped

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  • May 20, 2019 at 5:02 pm
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    I find that I can commit way more to technical climbs while Im on flats.

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  • May 20, 2019 at 11:15 pm
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    Hey Seth I was just rewatching older vids and I was wondering what your opinion was on basket pedals?

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  • May 23, 2019 at 6:07 pm
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    HE NEEDS SOME MILK!!!!!

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  • May 24, 2019 at 11:26 am
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    a higher cadence also goes a long way
    have you tried magnet plattform pedals yet?

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  • May 24, 2019 at 9:59 pm
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    I think it would've been easier for Alex to climb the hill if he lowered his seat

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  • May 27, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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    I don’t use clip pedals because I jump allot in the street

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  • May 28, 2019 at 2:04 am
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    3:14 “dude f*ck you”

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  • May 28, 2019 at 4:33 am
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    The conclusion: toe clips

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  • May 30, 2019 at 2:05 am
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    I always assumed "clipless" meant "secured to the pedal without toe clips (cages)".

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  • June 1, 2019 at 2:52 am
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    It's more about weight distribution .. he gotta weigh down the rear more

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  • June 3, 2019 at 9:09 pm
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    why not a combo pedal? clipped for the hill climbs, platform for when its gets narly.

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  • June 5, 2019 at 4:51 am
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    When he is talking about platform petles that jump park is in moab!!

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  • June 5, 2019 at 5:25 am
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    I have a specialized camber like the guy who rode clip less that is white black and gold

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  • June 10, 2019 at 1:37 am
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    Drop the seat and weight over back wheel to climb

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  • June 10, 2019 at 6:45 pm
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    I use Crank Brothers cleats and pedals. Flat on one side, clippy on the other.

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  • June 11, 2019 at 12:42 pm
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    Wat bike doe you have

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  • June 12, 2019 at 5:59 am
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    It's nice to see the pros struggling

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  • June 13, 2019 at 5:36 am
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    Ride with clipless on one side and platform on other side

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  • June 15, 2019 at 1:31 pm
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    Not to be a dick but these guys dont exactly look like they are at the pinnacle of fitness. Just some average looking occasional mtb riders. I bet id smoke him on flat pedals if he was clipped…….

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  • June 15, 2019 at 6:41 pm
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    From my perspective Alexander is the real winner between him and Brian since Brian has bikeshorts on

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  • June 17, 2019 at 3:24 am
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    I rode that is a bit of an S pattern. Seemed to crack the code.

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  • June 17, 2019 at 11:21 am
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    It was alex's backpack duhh

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  • June 19, 2019 at 5:48 am
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    Do a challenge where your tires can not come off the ground

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  • June 22, 2019 at 12:22 pm
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    Try Lock your suspension fork when climbing

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  • June 23, 2019 at 2:54 am
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    Take that stupid seat out your butt and you might get a lot more obstacles done the first time! Why do MTB riders insist on that high ass seat bullrap!!??? I always lower mine and dont mind standing and freekin pedalling!!

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  • June 25, 2019 at 5:08 am
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    Is BKXC in your team

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  • June 27, 2019 at 10:51 am
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    I think its better to use those pedals that are 2 in 1 I think those are called Flatcleat pedals they're very effective🚵‍♂️🚵‍♂️

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  • June 28, 2019 at 2:26 pm
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    Hmm, i use hybrids. I think it‘s the best for me. I clip in when i want and when not i just use the platform side. What do you think about such hybrids??

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  • June 30, 2019 at 9:25 pm
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    Another great video. Thanks.

    Technique, strength and stamina are the key. Pedals not so much. The rider struggling up the climb has to work on one or more of these fundamental skills. And this video pretty clearly shows how pedal choice probably isn't the main issue. Now I'll admit that I'd HATE having to do Slickrock on flats. Having one's preferred pedals is important, but not crucial in this instance. 30 years riding clipless means I'm just too accustomed to the power transfer clipless affords me and my riding style. But that's my style. So I could ride Slickrock on flats (obviously), but I wouldn't enjoy it as much. And the reverse would be true for the flats rider – much more in many cases, given the fear-factor clipless pedals induce in technical situations.

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  • July 5, 2019 at 6:30 am
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    2:17🤣🤣

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  • July 6, 2019 at 2:59 pm
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    DUDE!!! Fuck you!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂

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  • July 7, 2019 at 3:48 pm
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    Flats are better for jumping around? I'm new and trying to learn how to bunny hop and all my friends were saying clipless is better for that.

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  • July 9, 2019 at 1:33 am
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    So I set out for info on this very topic, should have known you’d have a video to cover it. I’m a proud clipless rider, been using them since, well forever ago. I have seen the benefits of flats and I think I’m going to get a set to have on hand when the terrain dictates. Thanks for a great video.

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  • July 9, 2019 at 11:48 pm
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    Seth, I've watched some of your videos and you seem to ride with flat pedals in all of them. Why do you prefer the flats when clipless allows higher cadence and different muscles? I'm just starting to ride trails and put spd pedals on my new trail bike. Should I be concerned about not be able to put a foot down fast enough? Are the advantages of clipless less important on a mountain bike?

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  • July 12, 2019 at 6:37 am
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    "Clipless" goes back to when they had actual toe clips which were a sort of cage over the toe of the foot.
    I think we need a new name like snap-in or toe-bindings or something.

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  • July 12, 2019 at 6:39 am
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    You have to focus on making your feet do circles rather than pushing down on the pedals – it makes you smoother.

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  • July 14, 2019 at 11:48 am
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    wouldn't do this crap without some frikking safety rope around the guy's waist 😀

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  • July 14, 2019 at 11:50 am
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    3:13 "dude fuck you!" exactly my feelings 😀 😀 might have pushed him off of the rock maybe… 😀 😀

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  • July 15, 2019 at 3:10 pm
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    2:16 HAHAHA

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  • July 16, 2019 at 9:48 am
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    It’s all about technique when ridding platform

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  • July 17, 2019 at 10:50 pm
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    2:16 😐😕😓

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  • July 19, 2019 at 9:59 pm
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    Imagine Alex being clipped in each time he bonked on the steep!

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  • July 22, 2019 at 12:20 am
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    Catalyst pedals and oval chainrings could help

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  • July 22, 2019 at 12:27 am
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    He didnt cop out. Nice move.

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  • July 26, 2019 at 11:33 am
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    What about 1 of each

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  • July 27, 2019 at 12:55 pm
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    One thing to remember is that it was a short climb though, the difference just becomes bigger on longer climbs. Alex didn't look like a guy who had much power/energy left when he got to the top. 😛

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  • July 29, 2019 at 5:51 am
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    That’s one part of me from getting clipped shoes and pedals, that I’m scared I’ll be late from unclipping and will just fall and roll my bike while my foot is clipped into it

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  • July 29, 2019 at 9:06 am
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    You should have tried this climb with a downhill bike

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  • July 30, 2019 at 8:39 am
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    I love flat pedles

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  • July 31, 2019 at 11:34 pm
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    You guys are great! NEEEVER give up – grunt – (Alex) lol – this is actually the most honest look at clipless vs platform – I have been switching between the two and agree – you learn from both. When I first switched to platforms I kept pulling up into thin air, but now I have learned you can push and pull = a lot more efficient. Also face planted on a crash a week before (on clipless) because my bloody bike wouldn't let go of my feet)….Good stuff keep them coming!

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  • August 8, 2019 at 7:32 am
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    Biggest issue was you got a back spring that makes u spin

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  • August 10, 2019 at 12:51 am
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    I'm mostly road, but I have dual spd/platform pedals. I like the option – but when fine tuning my shifting I always do it clipped in – it actually makes a difference on my shifting, and I optimize for clipped.

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  • August 10, 2019 at 8:38 pm
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    It would help if you drop your seat

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  • August 12, 2019 at 3:48 pm
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    I really like Crankbros clipless, once I got used to being clipped in, its hard for me to ride platforms.

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  • August 13, 2019 at 2:22 pm
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    He is in moab Utah right

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  • August 13, 2019 at 7:31 pm
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    I’m accident prone enough as it is, so placing me near a cliff on a bike lol wouldn’t end well for me 😅

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  • August 16, 2019 at 12:44 pm
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    So the backpack makes the difference

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  • August 16, 2019 at 8:51 pm
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    3:13 I’m dying😂

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  • August 17, 2019 at 8:00 pm
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    2:16 fells bad man

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  • August 20, 2019 at 9:53 am
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    I fell 10 feet down with my bike still attached and it was the most scariest shit I have ever been trouw on my bike. I fell head down first using my hands/arms to break my fall which was the most stupid thing I could do but I had zero injuries to my surprise. I dont like to ride with clip ons since than. Seeing him tipping over almost crashing into that abys made me curl up.

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  • August 21, 2019 at 5:46 am
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    Clipless are for road bikers you wear real shoes in the woods rock on mtb Jesus

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  • August 23, 2019 at 4:29 pm
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    Took that stupid back pack off

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  • August 24, 2019 at 7:37 am
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    omg… that guy is so doing it wrong, just put your seat all the way down, remove your stupid backpack at least!

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  • August 26, 2019 at 2:48 am
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    On the thumbnail Alex’s drivetrain was on the left but in the vid it’s in the right

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  • August 27, 2019 at 1:02 pm
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    Oh man slickrock looks terrifying i could never do it

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  • August 31, 2019 at 6:39 pm
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    LMAO – I always use clipless on and off road. The fact is for short super steep climbs like this I can generate more power by pulling hard on the off leg. It's a fact. And off road, clipless really stabilizes your feet, no worries of slipping off the pedals.

    Been riding and racing XC and road for a long, long time and know…

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  • September 2, 2019 at 8:09 am
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    You should use pedals that have clips on one side and flats on the other

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  • September 8, 2019 at 6:23 am
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    3:12 – Brian is such a jerk LOL

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  • September 9, 2019 at 8:53 pm
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    No, riding clipless = Flats. Clips = Clips. Anything else is a butchery of the english language.

    I don't care how the term developed or how the clips used to be bigger, it's still wrong.

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  • September 10, 2019 at 6:09 pm
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    FLATform pedals

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  • September 11, 2019 at 6:48 pm
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    The number of tries he put into this climb is insane. I've cleaned it before, but I threw up at the top. (Granted I was to the top of the next section too.) That many attempts is nuts. Related, Pasta Jays is awesome, but I don't recommend the eggplant parmesan if you have a ride the next day…..

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  • September 13, 2019 at 5:25 pm
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    Come on, we all know bmx straps are the kings

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